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03-26-2016, 11:53 AM
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I have no problem notching my frame to get my turning radius....but where does that leave me with the sway bar and the tire rub I'm experiencing at the rear of the tires to the wheel house. I'd have to move the mounting point back and come up with a shorter sway bar arm for the Muscle bar in order to clear the wheel at full lock. What I feel needs to happen is the wheel/tire should be centered in wheel opening...moving wheel/tire up to an inch forward would probably clear the Muscle bar. I really think I have been shipped the wrong control arms. Ordered these through Matt at MCB. Hopefully he still has the original invoice. Not sure how to tell what was actually sent verses what the invoice says was sent. What a conundrum!
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03-26-2016, 11:55 AM
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On a good note, I am enjoying the LS in the car. As long as I'm going straight I'm fine. But this wasn't purpose built for a drag strip only scenario.
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03-26-2016, 10:03 PM
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I know at some point, around late 2013, or early 2014, Ride Tech started making their lower arms with the ball joint moved forward. Normally, to get more caster the upper ball joint is moved rearward, and this caused the tire to hit the rear of the inner wheel well. Maybe your arms are older? The LBJ should be forward of a stock A arm if you have one to compare to.
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03-26-2016, 10:10 PM
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Are you using the ridetech spindle for this kit?
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03-27-2016, 06:36 AM
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Are you using the ridetech spindle for this kit?
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I'm fairly certain I am using the taller spindles as I did order the complete Tru Turn kit from Kim at MCB at nearly $1000. I found the invoice finally. And the pictures I have show the much taller spindle with two sets of holes (one low for steering arm and one high for caliper bracket). But I verify for certain when I can get back out to my dad's shop. Car is on hiatus while I get the Vintage Air (fittings-hoses) set.
Still love doing this stuff! But the loss of turning radius bugs me.
David
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03-27-2016, 07:01 AM
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Please understand folks, I'm no stranger to aggressive marketing schemes. It has helped this industry grow into what it is today. Holley for instance in my opinion has one the most obtrusive and aggressive marketing campaigns for our industry. I have jumped right in and on more than one occasion throughout this project I have found that a couple of Holley's products just wouldn't work out for me....but Holley stepped up and worked through it with me. For instance, Todd at Holley took a set of headers and altered the location of the first two primarys so I would have the clearances I needed for my application at no cost. He spent his time to correct an issue that I felt should've been noticed on the first run, but understandably they are not going to have a product that fits every single application variance. But again, they stepped up and didn't leave this customer dangling. Lol.
Now I'm giving Ridetech a chance to redeem themselves and help me sort this issue out so I can get out there and smash come cones with the rest of you.
David
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03-27-2016, 07:04 AM
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Original Invoice from Kim at MCB dated 04/05/13
1 04/05/13 64614*
SUMMARY COPY
67-69 tru turn complete package1 0 0 11169500 939.0000 -- 939.00
* 11169500 HAS BEEN SHIPPED SEPARATELY *
67-69 F body front tubular stongArm
upper pair
1 0 0 11163699 379.0000 -- 379.00
* 11163699 HAS BEEN SHIPPED SEPARATELY *
67-69 F body front tubular stongArm
lower pair
1 0 0 11162899 469.0000 -- 469.00
* 11162899 HAS BEEN SHIPPED SEPARATELY *
67-69 F body front shockwave TQ1 0 0 11163007 1353.5000 -- 1353.50
* 11163007 HAS BEEN SHIPPED SEPARATELY *
67-69 F body front muscle bar1 0 0 11169100 469.0000 -- 469.00
* 11169100 HAS BEEN SHIPPED SEPARATELY *
67-69 F body rear muscle bar1 0 0 11169102 469.0000 -- 469.00
* 11169102 HAS BEEN SHIPPED SEPARATELY *
67-81 Camaro - Ridetech 4-Link
ShockWave System - TQ Series
1 0 0 24350701 1279.5000 -- 1279.50
* 24350701 HAS BEEN SHIPPED SEPARATELY *
MERCHANDISE INVOICE TOTAL $ 5358.00
INVOICE TOTAL $ 5358.00
BALANCE FOR THIS ORDER $ 5358.00
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03-27-2016, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by David Pozzi
I know at some point, around late 2013, or early 2014, Ride Tech started making their lower arms with the ball joint moved forward. Normally, to get more caster the upper ball joint is moved rearward, and this caused the tire to hit the rear of the inner wheel well. Maybe your arms are older? The LBJ should be forward of a stock A arm if you have one to compare to.
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Great, so I may have ended up as a guiney pig for a test run of parts. I'm so tired of falling prey to marketing. Lol. Sure wish I had the time to have got everything going when I first got all of this. Then I would've known much sooner. Oh bugger!
Thanks for the help David. I move back to your reading material on Camaro front suspensions often for inspiration. Good stuff!
David
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