1987 IROC Camaro Pro-Touring Build

[SSLance]

What does it have that you want?

[gofastwclass]

Originally Posted by SSLance

What does it have that you want?

Lance, I believe you and I are on the same page.

I've seen people buy dead projects in hopes of resurrecting or gaining parts from them on the cheap only to realize none or very few of the parts work for the direction of their build.

[garage_engineer]

All good points guys. I definitely can see how deals like this can go south... someone's eyes light up and think they're getting a steal only to be stuck with the same pile of parts as the first guy. I am especially hesitant because the gentleman selling it is having trouble getting rid of it...

Here are the parts I want:
UMI K-Member
UMI Front Lower Control Arms
UMI Caster/Camber Plates
UMI Sway bars F/R
Wilwood Dynalite brakes F/R
UMI Rear Control Arms
Built 9" rear end with 3.73 gears from Yukon Gear
Maybe the wheels (18x9.5)
Edelbrock strut tower brace (may not fit with my intake)

I would sell the following:
- Body with welded-in DOM cage and sub-frame connectors (it's a roller with lowering springs and a few other things I already have)
- Rebuilt 355 (not installed but has build sheet, been sitting for a year)
- Super T-10 4-speed
- New front and rear Tru-flex bumpers and side skirts

Does it still seem like a no go? My thoughts are to make him a list of only the parts I want with an offer. That way if he ever needs the money and decides to split it up he can call me.

[gofastwclass]

My personal opinion: potentially make him an offer on the parts you need or simply buy exactly what you want new.

The problem is you need to determine a used market value for the bits you want. If you need to pull the parts, you will need to factor your time and labour as well as part of the expense.

If the parts you require are still available new what is the cost difference of purchasing exactly what you want / need vs. acquiring these used parts that may only be close to what you want. New parts also are a known quantity, used parts are... used and potentially abused.

Finally, I'm not a fan of trying to flip stuff. As clearly evidenced by the ad you are mentioning, used speed parts for sale don't exactly fly out of people's garages without help or a bit of luck.

I'm not saying you can't potentially score a great deal, I'm just saying keep your head above water and don't get too excited on what appears to be a good deal.

[garage_engineer]

Originally Posted by gofastwclass

My personal opinion: potentially make him an offer on the parts you need or simply buy exactly what you want new.

The problem is you need to determine a used market value for the bits you want. If you need to pull the parts, you will need to factor your time and labour as well as part of the expense.

If the parts you require are still available new what is the cost difference of purchasing exactly what you want / need vs. acquiring these used parts that may only be close to what you want. New parts also are a known quantity, used parts are... used and potentially abused.

Finally, I'm not a fan of trying to flip stuff. As clearly evidenced by the ad you are mentioning, used speed parts for sale don't exactly fly out of people's garages without help or a bit of luck.

I'm not saying you can't potentially score a great deal, I'm just saying keep your head above water and don't get too excited on what appears to be a good deal.

Thanks for the tips... I'm in agreement that these sort of deals always seem like a good idea on paper but never really work out. I think I'll stick with what I have for now, it's hard enough finding time to work on one car!

[garage_engineer]

Made some more good progress this weekend. I think I am pretty much done with disconnecting all of the wiring, removed the wiper motor, power steering hoses and the driveshaft. Couple things came up along the way:

My wiper motor was modified by the previous owner to fit the Super Ram intake. They had to cut out the small pump for the washer spray which leaves me with no windshield washers... something that I'd like to have on longer road trips. I have a used wiper motor/washer pump to replace it though and I think I can make it fit by modifying the bushing a bit:





My driveshaft was showing a bit of wear in some areas so I'll have to check out if it's been rubbing somewhere. I've also been having a vibration at high RPM so I am going to send it out to check the balance and maybe get new U-joints while it's there. I'd love to upgrade to an aluminum one, but not sure it's in the budget at the moment.

[Flash68]

The good ole Super Ram intake... that thing so was cool in its day.