Sometimes things don’t go as planned

[DBasher]

Originally Posted by tcgrmt

The more I read the more I am inclined to call bull****.

You need to read better

Sorry I just call it as I see it. First off this $80k loan on a hand shake (didn’t see where Ron disclosed that publicly)

I’m sure if you ask Ron he’ll tell you he was loaned money.

After the test n tune did you sit down with Ron and discuss the problems?

Which test and tune? The one in June where the mechanical problems first showed up? Or the second one weeks later where nothing mechanically was fixed?

Just saying Greg....you can call my a kool aid drinker, but maybe I am just not of one of those buddies blowing smoke up your ass

Kool aid drinker or not you need better comprehension skills, between the two threads it’s been explained pretty clear.

I’d be happy to provide the cliff notes, in crayon if you prefer.

[tcgrmt]

Personal friend of Ron’s, I guess. He has provided me services but I don’t get Chrismas cards from him. Lol...last time I texted him he asked who i was.
Aren’t you a friend of Greg’s? Why does that matter?
I guess the G in lateral G stands for Greg.
Like I declared up front I only came to this forum to read Ron’s posts on suspensions and learn all could. I can’t afford someone to build my car and I do all my own work.
I think BOTH are at fault here and if I was Greg I would be pissed too. But to publicly destory someone like this is not right. I’d be saying something no matter who it was. Greg's signature speaks volumes.
You can ban me too since I am not on the Greg train.

[raustinss]

My best friend, since we were 15 ... now 40 doesnt send me a Christmas card either ...

[mfain]

Originally Posted by DBasher

Kool aid drinker or not you need better comprehension skills, between the two threads it’s been explained pretty clear.

I’d be happy to provide the cliff notes, in crayon if you prefer.

No, it has not been explained clearly. We can see Greg's issues, but I suspect there was something personal that lit the fuse, or Greg would have given Ron a chance to fix the problems - but that's not our issue to worry about. There are all sorts of accusations and allegations, undocumented and mostly passed second hand to a body of moderators that unilaterally made their decision to chop-block Ron. We, the forum members don't really know what the allegations are, other than a couple of vague side comments in the posts. The excuse that some (all except Greg???) refuse to come forward is a bit lame. We don't need to know "who", but we would, however, like to hear the allegations so we can judge for ourselves the severity of the problem, if there is a problem. And Ron should be given an opportunity to address/refute specific complaints. That would be doing your forum members a service. In the big scheme of things, whether RSRT is listed as a vendor on Lateral-G is of little consequence. Those of us that use his products and services will continue to do so until and if we find a valid, verifiable reason not to do so.

Pappy

Skip the crayons - my eyesight is good enough to read the fine print.

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by tcgrmt

Personal friend of Ron’s, I guess. He has provided me services but I don’t get Chrismas cards from him. Lol...last time I texted him he asked who i was.
Aren’t you a friend of Greg’s? Why does that matter?
I guess the G in lateral G stands for Greg.
Like I declared up front I only came to this forum to read Ron’s posts on suspensions and learn all could. I can’t afford someone to build my car and I do all my own work.
I think BOTH are at fault here and if I was Greg I would be pissed too. But to publicly destory someone like this is not right. I’d be saying something no matter who it was. Greg's signature speaks volumes.
You can ban me too since I am not on the Greg train.

Rob,

I believe G stands for gravity.

Greg Weld is friends with probably hundreds of people - maybe more - on Lateral G.

If you came around more and didn't just post at the request of Ron Sutton (it's utterly obvious by the timeline and posts following his creation of this thread), you would likely be his friend too. He's a good man in many ways.

But he doesn't wave the ban hammer around here, I can assure you.

Have a nice day.

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by mfain

We don't need to know "who", but we would, however, like to hear the allegations so we can judge for ourselves the severity of the problem, if there is a problem. And Ron should be given an opportunity to address/refute specific complaints.

This is a privately owned forum and while its members are of the greatest interest they will not be potentially put at risk by endorsing a vendor and allowing them to market here when complaints and issues are too numerous and severe to ignore. Hopefully you will put some trust in Lateral G that they are looking out for the masses properly vs putting advertising dollars in the owner's pocket. This forum has always done that - and you can't say that about all car forums that's for certain.

This is not a jury trial. And this is not a publicly held company. And this is a not a witch hunt. No rash decisions were made here. Not on Greg's part - and not on Lateral-G's part.

But we certainly hope you and others see that Lateral G errs on the side of caution when it comes to letting vendors continue to market here to the members.

Originally Posted by mfain

In the big scheme of things, whether RSRT is listed as a vendor on Lateral-G is of little consequence.

Well it sure is to Lateral G. It is an implied endorsement of one's products/services. Pretty simple concept there.

Originally Posted by mfain

Those of us that use his products and services will continue to do so until and if we find a valid, verifiable reason not to do so.

Pappy

And you should. Even Greg said you make up your mind and do what is best for you. No one is telling anyone NOT to do business with Ron Sutton. But his selling is no longer endorsed by Lateral G.

[camcojb]

Originally Posted by tcgrmt

You can ban me too since I am not on the Greg train.

Who else have I banned?

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by camcojb

Who else have I banned?

Can you please ban Charley?


Oh wait -- he's moved on to "The Military Channel".

[Build-It-Break-it]

Take this for what you will but when I was a new member with an EXTREMELY low post count I was contacted by Jody the owner of lateral g and he asked me questions over the phone about my issues with Scott mock which I posted in the feedback section .

Jody doesn't take sides I can tell you that. No matter who you are.

[Scratch]

Originally Posted by DBasher

Kool aid drinker or not you need better comprehension skills, between the two threads it’s been explained pretty clear.

I’d be happy to provide the cliff notes, in crayon if you prefer.

No there has been nothing explained "clear".