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Old 12-16-2006, 12:29 AM
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Well... that isnt saying too much. There is nothing special about DSE's leafsprings to begin with, afterall they are mere and simple lowering springs.
That may be true, but I have heard that people have the best/consistant results with them, unlike some others. And I was trying to do a direct comparison within one company...ya know the QL vs. DSE lowering springs.

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Whatever you do, take your time, do your homework and do it right.... dont just settle for some band-aid suspension because all the "cool kids" are doing it.
Well I agree the 3-link is the way to go if you have the funds, which most guys don't. I feel DSE's QL is affordable and better than leafs...sorry if you don't agree and consider it a band-aid....remember we all can have our own opinions.

I get the feeling, but I don't know for sure, that this guy isn't loaded and is looking for the best suspension that he can afford, and my first coment was that if funds are there, the QL is a great design and will work great. I didn't even consider LD's 3-link since he didn't mention it so I figure it cost too much...clearly I was wrong.

He's a big boy and can spend his own money...I'm out!!
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Old 12-16-2006, 01:38 AM
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I was trying to do a direct comparison within one company...ya know the QL vs. DSE lowering springs.
Yeah... I didnt really keep it on the narrow considering that he only asked about the DSE products alone. I just wasnt aware if he had not considered other options as of yet... I probably should have asked, before leaning to far in other directions.

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I feel DSE's QL is affordable and better than leafs...sorry if you don't agree and consider it a band-aid....remember we all can have our own opinions.
Well... better than the leafs DSE has to offer, at least.

No need to be sorry about anything... I just dont bandwagon a product or a company just because of the majority of the 'keep up with the Jones'. If someone has a better widget for near the same cost (which the lat D stuff is in the end) but does many things better... why not ?? Broke or monitarily swimming in pools of the almighty dollar, I would still want to get the most for my hard earned cash'ola... and for the dollar spent, in my opinion... it is better spent on the LD 3-link. Without question.

But like I said, its just my opinion... and all this is coming from a leaf spring cat. Leafs work phenomenal, even in contrast to that of the link type rear suspensions, if you actually understand and have working knowledge of the kinematics envolved in all three systems. That is where my opinion lies.

There is design and there is execution. Most get one of those just good enough... and others get them both. Baindaid or not.
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Old 12-16-2006, 07:48 AM
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Thanks for keeping it civil....as always it good talking with ya!!

I guess we really should ask how he plans to use the car. If he has no future plans for the track, auto-x, or care about the cool factor of a c/o based suspension then I would save the money and go with leafs....plus it speeds along the build time a little and they work.

For the record, if I was to do my car again I'm sure I would do the LG 3-link....but I did my suspension years ago and I have no interest in starting over at this point ....
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....but I did my suspension years ago and I have no interest in starting over at this point ....
I hear ya one that one, I hate doing ^ expensive things twice.

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Old 12-17-2006, 03:16 AM
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I remember Jason saying after driving FUEL with the quadra link, he was never going to build another Camaro with Leafs. That says a lot to me. I curently have DSE 3 in springs and do like them, but I would love to install eather a LD 3 link or Quadra Link. LD first but it is so darn expensive.
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Old 12-17-2006, 07:25 AM
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Stielow gave me a ride in Camaro X, but unfortunately the conditions that day didn't allow us to play too much. The Mule, which was the development mule for the rear suspension, pulled over 1g with Mark's test equipment at Thunderhill with the Michelin Pilot Sports. Jody can attest to how well it works, he was riding shotgun.
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Old 12-17-2006, 12:38 PM
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This is intresting thread. Plese more opinions plese. How much QL will affect wheel hope when takeing hard 1/4 lounch on wide 335 tires?

And was it so at DSEs test car won some test against other modded camaros with leafs?

This is important info for people who hasnt decide wich way to go. As much as i like the idea of 3 link i dont like the looks of the watts link cradle and want to keep my rear seat. So its leafs or QL .
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