crate camaro's?

[zbugger]

Originally Posted by camcojb

I've built two kit cars and at least in California they go by the year of the engine, not the car it replicates. Anything 66-later here will require some amount of smog equipment.

Jody

I may be wrong Jody, but I heard that there were some changes coming to that law regarding "kit cars". For the life of me, I don't remember what it was though. I just know I heard something about it. Stupid memory...... This I forget, but what I want to won't leave my mind for years.

[93Polo]

Are hardtop bodies in production? Any pricing?

[69rs]

Hello?

[Musclerodz]

I think I scared him off. Oh well.

Mike

[salescamaros]

I don't think so. Was getting ready to go to the Carlisile show this week.
We are getting ready to build coupes in late summer or early fall. Do not have the price on them yet. You did not read far enough on the law. The next line said Paragraph (C) "a person who restores or replaces an identification number for such vehicle or part in accordance with applicable state law" And paragraph (D) says " If that person is the owner of the motor vehicle or is authorized to remove."

[Musclerodz]

You should not regulations out of context, because they can be misleading.

(B) a person who repairs such vehicle or part, if the removal,

obliteration, tampering, or alteration is reasonably necessary

for the repair;

(C) a person who restores or replaces an identification number

for such vehicle or part in accordance with applicable State law;

(D) a person who removes, obliterates, tampers with, or alters

a decal or device affixed to a motor vehicle pursuant to the

Motor Vehicle Theft Prevention Act, if that person is the owner

of the motor vehicle, or is authorized to remove, obliterate,

tamper with or alter the decal or device by -

(i) the owner or his authorized agent;

(ii) applicable State or local law; or

(iii) regulations promulgated by the Attorney General to

implement the Motor Vehicle Theft Prevention Act.

First part states that it may be removed to necessitate repair of part which should actualy limit it to the the upper cowl and dash. What it does not say is how much of the rest of the car can be replaced at the same time.

Second, and part C & D which you brought up out of context, says I can remove it as the owner or agent of the owner, but State laws still apply. So what might work in your state, may not work in another.

Where this will get hairy is if someone buys one of these bodies to fix there car, then they sell the car without telling the purchaser that the body had been replaced, then the seller could be held liable for criminal fraud because he tampered with the vin tag and cowl tag.

If it were me, I would buy one in a heatbeat for a race car. I would rather cut one of these up than an original. BTW, we still don't have pics.

Mike

[salescamaros]

excuse me! it's ok for you, but not me to quote out of context . I gave you the reg to read and where to find it so that you could for yourself. you all wanted question but you pick the answers apart. and you wonder why I wanted to conceal my idenity.

see ya

[tndude]

It sounds as if it is not cut and dry and is a little confusing on the interpretation of the law. I suppose time will tell.

I wonder if there is an attorney that’s a member that could explain the law in laymen terms.

Although, a 69 camaro in a box does sound appealing…..

[Red73]

Isn't this the kind of stuff that keeps getting Boyd Cottington into trouble with the law?

[camcojb]

Originally Posted by salescamaros

excuse me! it's ok for you, but not me to quote out of context . I gave you the reg to read and where to find it so that you could for yourself. you all wanted question but you pick the answers apart. and you wonder why I wanted to conceal my idenity.

see ya

The way you started the thread here and on other boards got people suspicious. I think what others and I are wondering is exactly if you're going to be able to easily register these cars. As I've said before I have built a couple of replica kit cars and in California it is not a simple process to get them registered. The least it has taken me is 5 trips to the DMV. The other concern is if they're considered a kit car they will be shoved into the smog program, requiring inspection every two years. Even though a 69 Camaro is not currently tested these will be. And they will be required to have all the smog in place for the year of the engine so anything 66-later will need a closed air cleaner, possible smog pump, EGR, hot air tube, etc. I would say the vast majority of the real 69 Camaro's wouldn't pass the visual check in my state, but since they are not tested it's not real critical. However these will be tested which GREATLY affects the powerplants you'd be able to use, unless you're prepared for adding all the smog along with the donor motor.

The other concern is I've seen these cars at SEMA last year, and the build quality was terrible. I've fought trying to get some reproduction parts to fit, and now you have an entire car made of reproduction parts. Are they doing anything about the fit and finish of these cars?

Jody