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06-22-2007, 06:32 AM
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Am I understanding this correctly??
If I street race my $4000 Honda Civic with naaws, It will get cruched and I basically had a $4000 fine or loss if you call it that.
But if I get caught racing a buddy or anyone else off a light or something of that sort in my $280,000 Chip foose car that I sold my house to buy, they will take it and crush it?? So they will basically be fining me $280,000??
So what this would mean is that the idiots that started all this mess with there $4,000 wanna be race cars will just about get a slap on the hand, But the guys like us who have lived tthere entire life for there ultra high dollar rides, will lose everything we have for the same offense??
For that matter, might as well by a $2,000 1985 Z28 camaro, spray the piss out of it, have fun, and if they crush it, WHO CARES!
I am I on the right track with this??
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06-22-2007, 07:43 AM
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I don't think chip foose will do anything for 280,000. But is a guy with that much invested going to drive his million dollar chip foose deal like the guy with a 4000 honda, i don't think so. Does the guy with the Foose hot rod have an attorney on retainer, Probabley. The sad part is most cops wont crush a car ever, but a jack ass cop will let that idea go to his head.
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06-22-2007, 12:31 PM
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I can see this getting challenged in court by SEMA. Or even somebody with a bit of balls to stare down the state.
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06-23-2007, 03:33 AM
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In a sense, I can see why they would crush a car of this nature and not auction it off. If they auctioned these "street racers" off they would likely be bought by the same kids or their nieghbors and be put right back onto the street. I in no way would condone street racing, especially a coordinated race where people are watching. HOWEVER, if I am at a light next to a FRIEND who wants to sprint up to 70 and back to the 55mph speed limit when there is no other cars around, I see nothing wrong there.
I too have been victim of the exhibition of speed/wreckless driving ticket. In my notch driving home with my wife from a fun night helping a friend paint his house. I stop at a gas station, my wife is slightly upset, start pulling away from teh gas station when my wife throws a full packof strawberries at my face. I get pissed off, drop the clutch and punch it. The shift light quickly blinds me, and I let off. I bet we moved a total of 10ft before I slowed and pulled into another open parking lot and back to the gas station. I stop and sure enough, cop lights me up in the parking lot. He gave me the ticket and said that I didn't have anything on my record so if I went down and talked to the prosecuter it would get suspended. I had the ticket suspended and couldn't get pulled over again for 3 months. Big deal. Did this teach me anything... well probably not because I'm plenty mature enough to know I was wrong to begin with! Now imagine in I had my car crushed for the same incedent.... I'd probably hate all cops forever! haha
Bottom line, I'm sure they are not crushing irreplacable cars. They are crushing cars that come a dime a dozen. They are crushing cars that are at the street racing spots with spectators and such. Not the guy who races a friend from a light on an open road to 70mph. They're targeting the morons that run the 30mi at 100+ in traffic. Those are the people who are killing people and make anyone with mods look bad.
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06-23-2007, 03:50 AM
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I don't think chip foose will do anything for 280,000. .
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Iv heard he would sing your t shirt with that
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06-23-2007, 09:13 AM
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I did read an article about this on yahoo, and they only crush cars that were multi offenders and were proven to have had stolen parts. The courts can't have it destroyed for just racing. Also the ones that were destroyed, none of them didn't have any kind of attorney to help fight it. They are trying to do two things. One is get the racers off the street, and two, get the stolen parts off the street as well. You pretty much have to be a f**k up to get your car destroyed by the courts.
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06-23-2007, 02:12 PM
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Apparently the Constitution and the Bill of Rights have been rewritten. Someone broke the law, they seized their property and they destroyed it. Think about that for a minute. What if someone does something illegal at home on their property? Do they come burn your house down? This crosses a very basic, fundamental line. You break a law in this country, you go to prison or jail, get fined, probation, community service or restitution. This goes way beyond street racing or cars. This is the government seizing and destroying citizen's property.
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06-23-2007, 02:56 PM
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I can't wait for them to seize the wrong person's car and they get the piss sued out of them.
Like Desert said, this is fundamentally against the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. How are they able to take your property and crush it?
Totalitarianism, here we come..
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06-24-2007, 07:41 AM
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This country is going down the toilet. Seizing personal property and destroying it is wrong!
I recently went to the bank handed the cashier 2500 cash to pay for a money order for some parts I ordered.
I was put throught the mill, social security number, home address, 1st born"s birth date, etc, etc. She was entering this all into the computer, reporting it all to the government on the spot. I asked did the bank change their policy?
SHe said no, Patriot Act went into effect Jan 1. All cash transactions are reported. ( I think it was over a few hundred$, used to be 10k)
Communist Soviet Union had more freedom than we do now.
You should see the Road Blocks they set up here in IL late at night pulling over every car that passes. What a freaking time waster that is.
I was going home late 1am, after working on a buddies car, every single car going northbound was pulled into a parking lot, ckecked for insurance cards, regisration, outstanding warrants, shined flashlights into the car, you had to get out of your car, while they snooped around. Man you got me started again, I'm F...king pi**ed!
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06-24-2007, 07:55 AM
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I'm with you Jeff. The whole thing pisses me off beyond belief. It's just wrong, and it is getting worse.
I'm all for catching terrorists and assorted bad guys, but I don't trust the cops. Many of them (unfortunately, I've met many) are playground bullies out on the street. I find the whole traffic enforcement scene to be corrupt. When did "beyond reasonable doubt" turn into "believe the cops above all else"?
I get pissed off every time some commercial comes on telling me that speed kills, and that speeding won't be tolerated, and the speeding is the same thing as aggressive driving. Bull****! It ain't the same thing. When was the last time you saw your state police driving the speed limit on the highway?
Here's how I fix this problem: start public education and driving lessons based on cooperative driving. Or for those with cognitive disabilities: "Move right, asshole!" In general, if people worked to provide open lanes for faster drivers to move through then the weaving issue goes away. The dangers go down. Lives get saved. Faster drivers can pass slower drivers on the left without getting frustrated and having to weave their way through traffic.
Then law enforcement can set up to nail speeding drivers in the left lanes. They will also have to ticket slow drivers causing backup in the left lanes.
Anyway, that's my plan.
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