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Old 04-29-2010, 05:48 AM
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Frank and John did you guys ever consider an IRS for the rear?


A simple methanol/E85 injector pre-throttle body can knock those IAT's way down! If you want to run straight E85 / meth you don't even need an intercooler. I've seen charger motors with IAT's in 30 - 40 C range.
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We won't need wheelie bars. 4 links can be tuned to hook and keep the front wheels down. but they do look cool!
I've been involved in drag racing my whole life from when i was in diapers.
A properly "tuned" 4 link will plant the tires and center of gravity along with front limiters etc will "help" calm a cars launch. However all it takes is one good launch and that back bumper will get some road rash. LOL. I've seen some properly tuned, high dollar, beautifull cars with no wheelie bars kiss the sky only to come crashing down HARD. I know you guys know what you're doing so I'll leave it at that. That rear suspension looks killer !
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Old 04-29-2010, 06:21 AM
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I've been involved in drag racing my whole life from when i was in diapers.
A properly "tuned" 4 link will plant the tires and center of gravity along with front limiters etc will "help" calm a cars launch. However all it takes is one good launch and that back bumper will get some road rash. LOL. I've seen some properly tuned, high dollar, beautifull cars with no wheelie bars kiss the sky only to come crashing down HARD. I know you guys know what you're doing so I'll leave it at that. That rear suspension looks killer !
No you gotta admit, Autocross on Saturday and wheelies on Sunday is pretty damn cool! I will put caster wheels on the bumper if I have to, LOL!
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I hope this does'nt fall in line with G-Force Cuda ??It was to be the Ultimate ! All the money and did not do what it was built for !! Ask Alan Johnson ??
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I've been involved in drag racing my whole life from when i was in diapers.
A properly "tuned" 4 link will plant the tires and center of gravity along with front limiters etc will "help" calm a cars launch. However all it takes is one good launch and that back bumper will get some road rash. LOL. I've seen some properly tuned, high dollar, beautifull cars with no wheelie bars kiss the sky only to come crashing down HARD. I know you guys know what you're doing so I'll leave it at that. That rear suspension looks killer !
We have kissed the sky quite a few times, But we have also carried a few 1/2 track wheelies out to some 7.80's. But my buddy Roger just ran some 7.30's without wheelie bars in his new car, and lifted. It is very tricky. We would move just a few pounds of weight front to back depending on track conditions and the power we were putting to the ground. You typically set the instant center a tick longer and drive into the power, He is running 726 Fulton with 5 stages.

Without much adjustment, You guys better have alot of moveable weight on the car.
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Frank and John did you guys ever consider an IRS for the rear?
interested in this, I've no experience with drag racing so I'm interested in the limitations of IRS.

I know that solid axles are technically inferior when corners are involved, but there's a fair number of solid axle cars doing well on road courses, but no one would "start" a theoretical ultimate car design build with a solid axle unless there were other reasons, such as drag races
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Frank,

I am glad to see you got this project posted. I got the chance to see the starting point, when I visited the shop back in January, and the picture doesn't come close in showing what little you guys have to start with. My hats are off you and your crew

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No you gotta admit, Autocross on Saturday and wheelies on Sunday is pretty damn cool! I will put caster wheels on the bumper if I have to, LOL!
No doubt my friend.... the word "cool" is an understatement !
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Frank and John did you guys ever consider an IRS for the rear?


A simple methanol/E85 injector pre-throttle body can knock those IAT's way down! If you want to run straight E85 / meth you don't even need an intercooler. I've seen charger motors with IAT's in 30 - 40 C range.
Jeff,
Do you have a link to some of this info? I would love to read more about the IAT's in 30-40 C range. Where the cars setup for drag racing? Was the car running a 1 or 2 gallon tank of E85 or meth?
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Jeff,
Do you have a link to some of this info? I would love to read more about the IAT's in 30-40 C range. Where the cars setup for drag racing? Was the car running a 1 or 2 gallon tank of E85 or meth?
I dig up some sites and PM them to you. I don't want to de-rail Frank's thread.
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