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Old 04-05-2010, 01:23 PM
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Payback has evolved into a true track car......no more blue tape.


Diggin' the pink hat Todd.
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Old 04-05-2010, 03:35 PM
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Default I take it the brake pads worked pretty good

with numbers that you posted.

Congrats on the success! Your car really performed well...makes all that work almost worth it. LOL

Your car sounded great on the video

Where can I get a hat like that?
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While I'd like to claim I'm manly enough to wear around a pink hat, everybody that did a 360 during the event got their turn. It was fun. Those front pads didn't make a peep after the driving school on Friday. They must not have been bedded in properly. They are now. I put about 125 miles of pure racing on the car this weekend. The car stopped really well from cold to hot. As soon as I get rid of that pesky knockback issue I'm in great shape. It clearly wasn't an issue on the Baer stop challenge since I was going straight. On the road course I lifted that much earlier for the customary pump and let's not even talk about the autocross. I did have the ear of one of the head guys at Wilwood however. He watched me post the fastest time in the Baer stop challenge and he did say they are working on a floating caliper/or rotor just for my application.(Let me say it's not just a Wilwood problem, it's caused by axle/bearing flex) He mentioned Sema but I don't know which year. That's really all that's left to make a huge difference in performance. I think the car is still leaning to much but any changes in spring rate will effect the ride. Doubt I'll change it. Here are two videos I stumbled on. This was the last turn. As you can see, I lifted early on all the turns with a barrier. I simply didn't want to chance of wrecking my car. I love it when the flag man is ready to bail on the second video. haha

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Old 04-05-2010, 04:27 PM
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Nice video's Todd, the car sounds great. Now you got plenty of power for those long straightaways.
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It sure does sound great Todd. KILLER CAR!
In the 2nd video, I can see your ass end kick out a bit after taking the bend. Was that from "goosing" the gas a little or a traction issue?
Again, killer car man. CONGRATS!
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It was just a matter of using the whole track and giving it a little gas. So a combination.
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Todd, that was Tony and I there in the second video. I already called him today to see when we can get our hands on the video he took. Will let you know as soon as I do!

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Nice vids again Todd, hey what is your opinion on those tires for the street vs the track?
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I'm really not sure what to think. I noticed a performance gain when I swapped wheels. However, I went from a stagger of 345/255 to 335/275. Also the wheels are lighter and I had Pilot Sports vs. PS2's. I'd say the performance gains are minimal until you get some heat in them. That would be road course or a smokey burnout before a drag race. Bill Howell said he felt the BFG KDW's actually hold better under braking in his car. I've been very happy with them across the board. I put a beating on them the last two weekends. I'll more than likely swap them for a set of BFG KDW's before my next Optima Challenge qualifier. Most of the guys are saying good things. They seem to be stickier than the 300 treadwear rating. They have a contingency program and I'd like to give myself a chance to race into the challenge. I'll keep running these until that next optima qualifier event or they are done. Once I've run both, I'll be sure to let you know my thoughts.
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Default I noticed the lean in your car on the videos

since you say the rear is a little loose with the new rear bar, you could go up in size on the front bar. splined bars are cheap...$100 or so. That would correct your loose condition and take care of the lean without killing your ride with a stiffer spring.

Spoke with a Maier and he stated that axle and bearing flex under heavy loads do cause the knockback along with changing the geomerty of the rear. He runs a full floater to take care of that problem.

You know you are getting close to having it set on kill when you bitch about the smallest of things. LOL
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