67 Camaro project "It Don't Fit"

[Roberts68]

Originally Posted by makoshark

I'll snap some pictures and post them so everyone will know what exactly I need measured. I'm sure each car will vary and that is what I'm wanting to see, so hopefully a few more will pop in with measurements to compare with

Good call. I will have a look once you get some pics of what you need.

[makoshark]

The first two pictures are from the passenger side and then, of course, the last two are from the driver's side.

[tubbed69]

Just measured mine and the passenger side looks about the same as yours but mine is a little tighter than yours on the front of the drivers side which is not good because these glasses are really hard to roll up and down with interior panels in place.

[Sonar Chief]

Originally Posted by makoshark

The first two pictures are from the passenger side and then, of course, the last two are from the driver's side.

Jeremy.... I'll get pictures when I get back later today. I still have the OEM quarters on too.

[Roberts68]

First of all, relevant to our earlier conversation Mako, it is -12 degrees here in my garage so if you want to factor in some shrinkage to my measurements it may be justified.

Anyway, one difference is that my car has the outer window felts and trim at the window ledges but the measurements I took were around those attachment points to try and be consistent to yours. I measured body to body only so the trim would not be a factor.

At the rear of the pass quarter window slot I get 1 5/16"
At the front of it I get 1 1/4"

My pass door slot is mostly 1 1/2, and I measured at the mirror and before/aft the window stabilizing clip with felt on it, window guide they might call it.

My drivers qtr window slot was a touch narrower at the rear I got 1 3/16 and maybe a fat 1 1/8 at the front.

My Drivers door is the same as pass.

My car's body is all original behind the firewall.

[makoshark]

Awesome, thanks guys. Seems 1 1/4" was what GM engineered that channel to be. My driver's side measures that consistently throughout the length of the channel. however, My passenger side is a 1/16" narrower in the rear and 1/8" narrower in the front of the channel. I have replaced my quarters with NOS metal.

I asked for that measurement because of my fitment issues with the front cap. I can get the doors to fenders aligned together, but I can't get the doors to quarters to sing in harmony. I have the tops of the doors adjusted further in to work with the fenders. By doing this, it pushes the door in past the quarter plane. Make sense? My only solution to this problem right now is to place a block of wood in the jamb at the top of the door and twist the door a tad to get it level with the quarter. I'm worried, though, by doing this it will kick that bottom of the door out past the quarter at the jamb.

-12* is cold enough to shrink a lot more than metal I think the coldest it has ever gotten around here is 0. That was freaking cold. I could only imagine what -12 feels like. ouch!

[makoshark]

Today, I woke up from my on-going nightmare of 4 weeks of working on panel alignment. I have the driver's side aligned as best as possible. I have 3/16" of shims on the top cowl bolt and I need to remove 1/16" to push out the fender to even it with the door. The door to quarter jamb still needs a bit of work, though. The top half of the door is leaning in and not even with the quarter. I haven't decided to either use a block of wood and twist the door or make a slice in the quarter just inside the door jamb. The driver quarter, as opposed to the passenger quarter, is thicker on the top edge than the door. Passenger quarter narrows up and is even with the door as the top edge transitions into the door. With that, I'm leaning towards surgery on the quarter.

The fender will need a bit of work where it meets the rocker as well. The two are not following the same contour, so I'll have to work on that. Also, towards the top of the fender it lays in past the door as it gets to the top edge. Looks like I'll have to make a slice on the fender just inside the fender-to-door gap to work that even with the door.

With that work left to be done, the shimming process on the driver side is DONE! I'm still working on the passenger side, but seems I'm making better progress today than I have in the past 4 weeks. Can I get an amen?

[Roberts68]

AMEN.

[Sieg]

Amen Brother!

I'm not feeling so bad about my trivial journey after reading your exercise in patience.

[makoshark]

Thanks Sieg and Robert

Patience, I don't think, really is the word for it. Persistence would fit better. If I were patient, then I wouldn't have a hole in my sheetrock from throwing a hammer through it this morning