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Old 03-23-2010, 04:17 PM
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nothing like a apples to radish
comparison...
They're both red, right?
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Old 03-23-2010, 04:44 PM
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So let me get this straigt.. the GT500 costs the same as a Camaro SS if you get a USED GT500



nothing like a apples to radish comparison...
the gt500's are 30 grand that have around 2000 miles on them. thats basically new.

it seems like the stang is the best bang for the buck. sure the z/28 will change everything but who knows when it will come out and how much it will cost. def not $30,000
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Old 03-23-2010, 04:56 PM
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not an expert, but more apples to apples would be a new 30,000 camaro to a new 30,000 mustang. who would win that?
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Old 03-23-2010, 05:35 PM
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the gt500's are 30 grand that have around 2000 miles on them. thats basically new.

it seems like the stang is the best bang for the buck. sure the z/28 will change everything but who knows when it will come out and how much it will cost. def not $30,000
You can get a stripped *new* SS(1) Camaro for around $32,000.00

I'm sure there will be some deals to be had on used SS Camaros as well within a year. Also keep in mind 2000 miles is on a 2007 GT500.
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Old 03-24-2010, 02:24 AM
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The Camaro is also a big fat pig.
Apparently you're not aware that the GT500 is heavier. Like stated before too, the Camaro out handles it too.
The GT500 weighs as much as midsize 4x4 SUV's. Probably why Ford is scared to use Nurburgring to test their cars.

Want a REAL GOOD LAUGH ??? Watch the $82,000 GT500KR get beat to crap by the $76,000 Z06.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIPBP-9TUnQ I'm sure the 800lb weight difference played a HUGE factor.

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not an expert, but more apples to apples would be a new 30,000 camaro to a new 30,000 mustang. who would win that?
If it's a 2010, the Camaro SS will beat the crap out of the Mustang GT.
If it's a 2011 , that's a much better performance comparison. Mustang finally got some good powerplants.

However as you can see in the Motortrend video I posted, the $31,000 SS was only .1 seconds slower then the $55,000 Mustang GT500.

Either way, IMHO the Camaro is the better bang for the buck brand new.
If you want used, the GT500 will be faster barely in a straight line.....but not by a whole lot.

I do however think Ford hit a homerun in 2010's body style and the 2011 powertrains finally.
I think the 2007's are not as attractive at all , but that's just me. I think they are a big waste of money.

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So let me get this straigt.. the GT500 costs the same as a Camaro SS if you get a USED GT500



nothing like a apples to radish comparison...
I was amused as well.

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Ace....wassup buddy What's been going on? Have you put that rear end in yet?
Nah brother, still sitting here.

I have my 78 Camaro I have been completely rewiring with an AAW Hwy 22 kit.
I'm putting the interior in this week and I HOPE to have the 442 in my garage
by this weekend or next getting that rear end in.

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I love how people like to compare the "KR" just to bloat the price, when the base GT500 is basically the same car but cheaper. The KR gets like 40hp - big deal. Compare the GT500 to the same Z06 and the results will be almost identical to the KR - now your talking about a $47ishk GT500 vs. a $76k Z06. Who's complaining about apples to oranges??

Motortrend = lol

How about we deal with published facts when it comes to weight.

Camaro
3750 / 1705 - LT automatic
3741 / 1700 - LT manual
3769 / 1713 - LS automatic
3780 / 1718 - LS manual
3913 / 1779 - SS automatic
3860 / 1755 - SS manual

GT500
3820 (This is the iron-block version, 2011 gets aluminum)
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:07 AM
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I love how people like to compare the "KR" just to bloat the price, when the base GT500 is basically the same car but cheaper. The KR gets like 40hp - big deal. Compare the GT500 to the same Z06 and the results will be almost identical to the KR - now your talking about a $47ishk GT500 vs. a $76k Z06. Who's complaining about apples to oranges??

Motortrend = lol

How about we deal with published facts when it comes to weight.

Camaro
3750 / 1705 - LT automatic
3741 / 1700 - LT manual
3769 / 1713 - LS automatic
3780 / 1718 - LS manual
3913 / 1779 - SS automatic
3860 / 1755 - SS manual

GT500
3820 (This is the iron-block version, 2011 gets aluminum)
Except the stock Z06 would destroy the GT500 on any road track.. How did we get to comparing to a Vette???

For now the GT500 is 3820... it's really doesn't matter what it might weigh in the future.

What if I bought a used Z06 to compare to the new GT500??
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A friend of mine just bought a 2010 gt500 for $42000. white with blue stripes .very fast
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Well it still runs circles around a Mustang in terms of braking and cornering, so its less fat [/QUOTE]

The new Camaro isn't running circles around a GT500. Just because it has IRS doesn't automatically make it handle better than the Mustang with it's solid rear axle. Currently the new 2010+ Mustang GT (not the GT500) is superior to the new Camaro SS in both handling AND braking. Again this is just the GT we're talking about. I think the GT500s are comparable if not exactly the same as the SS since the GT500s are heavy too. Matter of fact according to Road and Track test Data the 2010 Mustang GT scores better in the slalom than both the GT500 and the SS. Be interesting to see how much better the GT500 is in 2011 when it debuts with it's all aluminum block!

Road and Track test data:

2010 Camaro SS
Braking from 60 mph, ft: 121 ft.
Braking from 80 mph, ft: 212 ft.
Skidpad, g: 0.89 g
Slalom, mph: 66.4 mph

2010 Mustang GT
Braking from 60 mph, ft: 115 ft.
Braking from 80 mph, ft: 202 ft.
Skidpad, g: 0.93 g
Slalom, mph: 69.1 mph

I don't have numbers on the 2007 GT500 handy but it's very close to the SS. I believe the 2010 GT500 is improved over the 2007 though.
Nice thing about the supercharged cammer Mustangs from Ford you're a pulley and a tune away from adding some serious power to the wheels to give you an edge atleast in a straight line. I think the '07 GT500 and SS Camaro would be comparably close in performance and it will just ultimately come down to driving both and figuring out what you like better for YOU.
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Old 03-24-2010, 02:37 PM
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They both handle worse than say...a stock 1970 camaro with better tires, or any c5 or c6. Driving either is almost like driving a truck.

I will say that im suprised as hell that a 100+ horsepower difference only equates too 5mph at the strip : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C9zanLcpXY&feature=fvw
Thats a pretty terrible finish for a car thats much better on paper.
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