Norwood

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab

As long as you don't drop it too fast off the floor jack....I don't see any issues.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Sieg

.......or C5 Z06's
.......or Miata's in my situation.

I bought an entire car (Hobaugh's Miata) for HALF what a DSE sub costs... and if it gets damaged at a non insured track event (many of you readers fail to consider that!) I could just cover it with dirt and leave it where it wrecked.

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

I could just cover it with dirt and leave it where it wrecked.

My CPA has run his Boxster at PIR and The Ridge and really enjoys it. I asked him if he was insuring it at track days and he said insurance is available but hasn't. I told him about your Miata purchase and this exact quote which created brief laughter followed by a moment of silence when the logic and reality hit him.

[SSLance]

I've ran both ways, with and without track insurance.

At least around here, the clinker seems to be timing and scoring device included or no.

No transponder = insurance available, event with transponder = no insurance available.

[Sieg]

Modern logistics amazes me......ordered the spacers and stops from Summit yesterday at 1:35 pm and they're delivered to my door this morning at 8:35 am via standard shipping.

[Panteracer]

I checked into insurance for the Track and Dot road race tires
and running in the Race group will not allow you to have the
insurance... Just had the Pantera appraised and my appraiser
has an insurance guy who said once it is loaded off the trailer
at the track you are on your own... another buddy said you
can get it for the Paddock.. big deal

I often think of this when the car is buried into a turn with a
guy in front of me hoping all goes well on the exit... or I could
just take it to a show and sit around and not run the car... fat chance

Bob-Texas bound to run the high banks

[Flash68]

Originally Posted by Sieg

Look DG no jackstands!

Those do not look to be DSE spec...

[Sieg]

Since my parts arrived early yesterday and I had a window of opportunity I pulled the springs and did some experimenting and altering.

Rubber bump stops with the suspension fully compressed against the corner weight of the car. The rubber stops free length is 1.5" and it compressed .5".


Same scenario as above with 1.25" poly sump stop in place. So it appears to have gained .25" of free travel and similar compressed travel, though beyond sitting on it's own weight the poly should be firmer than the rubber but the zerk is still in jeopardy in a G-out.


Hotchkis bar link installed at supplied length (1-5/8" spacer) in compression.


Same scenario with 1" spacer.


Same scenario with .75" spacer.


Suspension in full drop with bar link adjusted finger tight which leaves the bar holding the suspension approx 1" short of full drop.


Sitting at estimated ride height.


Global West cast aluminum 3/8" spacers.




Sitting at ride height with spacers installed.


It went from .5" free travel to 1.25 free travel with spacers and poly bump stops. Not ideal but a big percentage gain. Fender height went from 23-7/8" to 24-5/8".

Hopefully I'll be able to button up all the loose ends tomorrow, get it on the ground and set the caster/camber/toe and take it for a short test drive, then recheck dimensions and safety inspect before taking it on a real shakedown drive weather permitting.

[GregWeld]

You can always remove the zirc....


Stay away from railroad tracks....


Use 650# springs so it rides like a hay wagon....


Use a shorter shock so the shock becomes the stop (and then ruins the shock)....


Install shock bump stocks (a collar)...


Copy PK - DG - RD and leave in on the jack stands forever...

[Roberts68]

Hey Sieg, how about relocate the zirc to be horizontal pointing forward? Weld that hole shut and drill/tap a new one.

You might have to drill a pass through in your urethane and rtv the existing passageway.

I have added zircs to non zirced bushings in a similar fashion, scoring my own passageways with a dremel etc...