Project "Payback"

[cencalc6]

Love the way your car sounds Todd What mufflers are you running?

[Flash68]

Nice work. Who da thunk that fatty could get around a Goodguys style autoX so well?

So first Cris, now you adding Hobaugh to the payroll?

Originally Posted by Sieg

Shocking results!

Shocking that he finished near the top?

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by Flash68

Shocking that he finished near the top?

Shocking as in once you experience what decent suspension valving delivers you understand why the real good stuff is real expensive.

The driving ability, motor, and brakes have been there, the shocks have been his handicap IMHO.

[Vegas69]

Originally Posted by cencalc6

Love the way your car sounds Todd What mufflers are you running?

I have 3" pipe, x pipe, and Magnaflows that dump right before the axle. It sounded really good with the exhaust bouncing off the barriers. Oh ya, and I set off about 5 or 6 car alarms in the parking garage at the Cannery. I would like to put tail pipes on the car. It's got progressively louder or I've got OLD.

Originally Posted by Flash68

Nice work. Who da thunk that fatty could get around a Goodguys style autoX so well?

So first Cris, now you adding Hobaugh to the payroll?

Shocking that he finished near the top?

It does suprisingly well. I have so much engine braking with my big block and aluminum flywheel that it takes a unique driving style. Brian was struggling with it a little since he's used to LS engines. You really have to control front grip with the throttle.

I was thrilled to be that close to Mary & Brian.

Originally Posted by Sieg

Shocking as in once you experience what decent suspension valving delivers you understand why the real good stuff is real expensive.

The driving ability, motor, and brakes have been there, the shocks have been his handicap IMHO.

The shocks definitely made a big difference. The good news is I need to work on the front end again to find a little more grip as the rear is biting better than ever laterally.

We talked about the direction of this hobby and the different type of cars last night. The truth of the matter is that cars like mine and Blue Balz aren't capable of competing with guys like Brian and Mike. It's a simple matter of physics. Our cars are just to heavy. We are gaining tenths and we need seconds to catch up to the top of the field. Mark Stielow is the only one I know of that can win with a car this heavy. Remember, he has 830 ft lbs and ABS. And he's one hell of a wheel man. Guess what he's doing. Building a lighter car. I'm really close to the end of the rope with this car and it's capabilites. I'm having trouble with the thought of selling it but my ideals have changed and I know what I'm capable of building with all my experience. The flip side is I hate to give up the streetability of the car. I've really tried to keep that alive through all my tweaks. It's a great ALL AROUND performer. I just crave the race part more than anything else at this point.

[skatinjay27]

damn there was ALOT of cones lol i guess they wanted to be sure no one would get lost!

[73CPCAMARO]

Todd,

I am glad you made it out yesterday to MATS. It was a very fun weekend. Hotchkis did a really nice job putting on a well run event with more runs that I have ever had in two days. Your Camaro is awesome. The power is unbelievable and the handling is just a few tweeks away from being REALLY GOOD. Thanks for the opportunity to take me for some rides and let me have my hands at the wheel. You will really feel the difference once you make the adjustements we talked about with the alignment. Enjoy the car and have a great summer with it. Hope to see you soon at another event this summer.

Brian

[Vegas69]

Originally Posted by 73CPCAMARO

Todd,

I am glad you made it out yesterday to MATS. It was a very fun weekend. Hotchkis did a really nice job putting on a well run event with more runs that I have ever had in two days. Your Camaro is awesome. The power is unbelievable and the handling is just a few tweeks away from being REALLY GOOD. Thanks for the opportunity to take me for some rides and let me have my hands at the wheel. You will really feel the difference once you make the adjustements we talked about with the alignment. Enjoy the car and have a great summer with it. Hope to see you soon at another event this summer.

Brian

We had a blast, wish I could've made it Friday. Dad's in town this week so maybe we'll get the bubble gauges and toe plates out and get to tweakin. I'm going to take you up on that ride you promised.

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

I just crave the race part more than anything else at this point.

Keep Payback, get Kelli a used Prius and build a light-weight track car. Just don't put Ford stripes on it.

[Track Junky]

Originally Posted by Sieg

Keep Payback, get Kelli a used Prius and build a light-weight track car. Just don't put Ford stripes on it.

Kelli in a Prius after being behind the wheel of the Vette.......Dont think that will happen.
If you want to save some bucks put your '69 up on blocks, find a shell, then pull your motor and front suspension and throw them in the shell. Pick up another G-bar set up and toss that in. That way you can still keep your car and I won't have to hear about how much lighter I am than you.

[sixnina]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

I have 3" pipe, x pipe, and Magnaflows that dump right before the axle. It sounded really good with the exhaust bouncing off the barriers. Oh ya, and I set off about 5 or 6 car alarms in the parking garage at the Cannery. I would like to put tail pipes on the car. It's got progressively louder or I've got OLD.


It does suprisingly well. I have so much engine braking with my big block and aluminum flywheel that it takes a unique driving style. Brian was struggling with it a little since he's used to LS engines. You really have to control front grip with the throttle.

I was thrilled to be that close to Mary & Brian.




The shocks definitely made a big difference. The good news is I need to work on the front end again to find a little more grip as the rear is biting better than ever laterally.

We talked about the direction of this hobby and the different type of cars last night. The truth of the matter is that cars like mine and Blue Balz aren't capable of competing with guys like Brian and Mike. It's a simple matter of physics. Our cars are just to heavy. We are gaining tenths and we need seconds to catch up to the top of the field. Mark Stielow is the only one I know of that can win with a car this heavy. Remember, he has 830 ft lbs and ABS. And he's one hell of a wheel man. Guess what he's doing. Building a lighter car. I'm really close to the end of the rope with this car and it's capabilites. I'm having trouble with the thought of selling it but my ideals have changed and I know what I'm capable of building with all my experience. The flip side is I hate to give up the streetability of the car. I've really tried to keep that alive through all my tweaks. It's a great ALL AROUND performer. I just crave the race part more than anything else at this point.

Awesome Todd
That really shows how far you and the car have come but you can't be serious about getting rid of this beast already, any way what would you move to next?