I knew I liked Adam Carolla for some reason.. His take on the OWS Generation. LOL

[Iamtheonlyreal1]

Quote Carolla seems to miss the point to me. All the name calling and bashing do not touch on the real issues at all and are distractions. OWS isn't pissed that some people are driving nice cars and they aren't, completely irrelevant. These people don't want a rolls Royce or Ferrari, they don't look up at these people with envy, rather down with disgust because our fellow brothers and sisters around the world are starving.

You must instinctively understand that everything you have in your home, came from somewhere, at a cost of someones time and energy. Would some of this energy used for our blind consumerism be better used in the stomach of a starving child, or healthcare for the sick?? Some certainly think so.

Perhaps lateral-g is a good representation of this as we don't think twice about spending thousands on some billet aluminum that gives us pleasure for a week or two, but Africa?? F**k them they can all starve to death for all we care.

So back to OWS, some of these people have worked to get through school, now graduate in mortgage levels of school loans, and cannot find jobs. I might be a little pissy too if I was in their position. The banks more or less have created a "Degree" Bubble, much like the housing bubble. We push for everyone to go to college, give them low interest loans, and openly accept any dumbass into the universities these days. Surprise surprise, now everyone has a degree and they are worthless. End Quote



Ok here is the deal.. You are correct about the sensitivity, so please understhand that you have incorporated sensitivity into your statment.. Now as far as the OWS protestor go, it may have started out as Corporate, but it has gone to the individual also.

Anyone with a brain, should be careful as to what degree they decide to go for.. It is very very easy to know if your diploma will be worthless or not, so I am tired of hearing about that plight. If you were intelligent enough to go to college, you should have been intelligent enough to make an conscience decision about your future. Liberal Arts, isnt going to do a damn thing in the real world, so dont get mad if it doesnt get you where you want to go..

As far as what I, or others work hard for. I do understand what you saying to a degree, and I do my part to help my fellow man. If you really feel that way, then you should not spend a single penny on anything that would be considered a novelty or luxury.. Donate your excess and time to the causes you speak of, or else you are just as guilty as the people you are pointing to. By your own statement, it is a plight that you feel strongly about, along with trying to point guilt, but you personally are killing people if you dont give everything you possibly can also.. So, I hope you can sleep at night, because you spent money on a nice dinner or wheels..

[parsonsj]

Originally Posted by DRock

As far as individual responsibility, there are four main factors that determine how much you will make in your lifetime:

1. Year you were born
2. Country you were born in
3. Circumstance
4. Work Ethic

Maybe this is what you meant by "circumstance", but the attribute rich (1%) people have that correlates the strongest statistically speaking is that their parents were rich.

IOW, if you are in the top 1% income-earning in the US, the thing about you and all your fellow 1 per centers that is most in common is that you had rich parents. Intelligence, education, effort, and talent matter. But not as much as luck.

[camcojb]

Originally Posted by parsonsj

Maybe this is what you meant by "circumstance", but the attribute rich (1%) people have that correlates the strongest statistically speaking is that their parents were rich.

IOW, if you are in the top 1% income-earning in the US, the thing about you and all your fellow 1 per centers that is most in common is that you had rich parents. Intelligence, education, effort, and talent matter. But not as much as luck.

that may be true John, but the only two people I know who I'm comfortable calling 1%ers both made their money without help from parents or family.

[XcYZ]

The OWS crowd is the 1% to the rest of the population of the world. How ironic.

[98ssnova]

where is the popcorn smilies

[parsonsj]

Originally Posted by Scott

The OWS crowd is the 1% to the rest of the population of the world. How ironic.

I don't know about irony, but the only reason most of these people have the luxury (and right) of protesting is that they were born in this country within the past 60 years or so. Another example of luck.

[Van B]

Originally Posted by Iamtheonlyreal1

If you were intelligent enough to go to college, you should have been intelligent enough to make an conscience decision about your future.

Didn't go, eh?

[Iamtheonlyreal1]

Originally Posted by Van B

Didn't go, eh?

No I didnt.. I took about a year off of school out of high school, and made too much money to qualify for assistance, and couldnt take the pay cut while attending.. LOL To be honest, I noticed then it would take 6-8 years of school to get a diploma that made a major difference in income potentia, so I made a conscience decision not to pursue that avenue.. I gained experience and education in various fields, and got technical training through the General Motors Training Programs..

[D Rock]

Anyone with a brain, should be careful as to what degree they decide to go for.. It is very very easy to know if your diploma will be worthless or not, so I am tired of hearing about that plight. If you were intelligent enough to go to college, you should have been intelligent enough to make an conscience decision about your future. Liberal Arts, isnt going to do a damn thing in the real world, so dont get mad if it doesnt get you where you want to go..

These are kids that are 18 going off to college, you would have to have huge oversight to predict where the markets for your degree will be in 4 years. But that is still besides the point, the devaluation of college degrees through saturation of the market is there, no matter what the field.

As far as what I, or others work hard for. I do understand what you saying to a degree, and I do my part to help my fellow man. If you really feel that way, then you should not spend a single penny on anything that would be considered a novelty or luxury.. Donate your excess and time to the causes you speak of, or else you are just as guilty as the people you are pointing to. By your own statement, it is a plight that you feel strongly about, along with trying to point guilt, but you personally are killing people if you dont give everything you possibly can also.. So, I hope you can sleep at night, because you spent money on a nice dinner or wheels.

I agree, a man who doesn't live by his convictions is not a man by all in my standards. However I don't believe the problem starts with the person, more than anything we are conditioned by the environment we live in. And this game that surrounds us, the game of whoever has the most stuff, the most expensive stuff, the rarest stuff, is just that, a game. With that said i'm not trying to point guilt at anyone, maybe just open some eyelids a little.

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by 98ssnova

where is the popcorn smilies