Somebody FREAKIN shoot me!!!!

[GregWeld]

How many of you saw the news with the Detroit cit councilwoman stating that since her people voted for Obama -- that it was time for some quid pro quo and bring home the bacon?

It's nothing to do with race.... for me personally. But this is, to me, even worse than the "Obama phone" video... This was put forth by someone that is suppose to be a representative on a government body. This is a city councilwoman! OMG...



LET ME SAY FOR THE RECORD -- I DO NOT, AND NEVER HAVE, WATCHED FOX NEWS... Most of the people on there are as far RIGHT as I think this councilwoman is far LEFT... I'm a guy that's way more right down the middle... but I found the video on their website so since it was easy - I'll post the link.


http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/20...now-support-us

[SuperSport]

Originally Posted by intocarss

Is it just the media lately, or are more and more people in this country really starting to despise success??

The media. We all go to work and hope to be successful some day.
At least I do. I assume the majority of Americans are the same as me.
Turn off the television we when they feed you that garbage of 1% or 47 %. It's nonsense. The majority in this country is the working class.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by intocarss

Is it just the media lately, or are more and more people in this country really starting to despise success??

This is the one part of this administration that bothers me the most... that they're actually WORKING to divide people in this country in a them vs us fashion. I couldn't be more against that kind of "governing".

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

This is the one part of this administration that bothers me the most... that they're actually WORKING to divide people in this country in a them vs us fashion. I couldn't be more against that kind of "governing".

The underlying tones within this government are the root of my distrust.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Sieg

The underlying tones within this government are the root of my distrust.

I went to the range today at 11:30 --- I left at 4:00.... I took the .45.... the 30-30... the AR 15 .227... the .40... the two .22's

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

I went to the range today at 11:30 --- I left at 4:00.... I took the .45.... the 30-30... the AR 15 .227... the .40... the two .22's

That's a good day! Just remember you can't have enough ammunition.........Investing 103..........in the right calibers it may be like gold but pay big dividends.

All I did was make a few picture holders.......







Tomorrow I might design a special one for your new setee.

[57hemicuda]

Originally Posted by realcoray

There is a lot of ignorance here. Taxes are exceptionally low relative to what they have been over the last century. There were decade long stretches where the top tax bracket was 90%, and that included dividends.

Who is to blame for these free loaders who straight up get a check from the government? Bush in 2002.

Oh theres some ignorance all right, I need someone to justify for me where the government should ever be entitled to 90% of what someone earns, or 50% for that matter. What services are you providing me that entitles you to 50% of what I work so hard for?

And on the Bush thing, that just makes me chuckle. Bush made his mistakes, but when does Obama take responsibvility for his actions. Its going to be 50 years from now and the Democrats are still going to be blaming Bush, and the press is still not going to do its job, and look for the true root causes.

[Beegs]

When they kept saying:...."lean forward"

...they actually meant:.. "BEND OVER"

[realcoray]

Originally Posted by 57hemicuda

Oh theres some ignorance all right, I need someone to justify for me where the government should ever be entitled to 90% of what someone earns, or 50% for that matter. What services are you providing me that entitles you to 50% of what I work so hard for?

And on the Bush thing, that just makes me chuckle. Bush made his mistakes, but when does Obama take responsibvility for his actions. Its going to be 50 years from now and the Democrats are still going to be blaming Bush, and the press is still not going to do its job, and look for the true root causes.

I dunno, I mean there are roads and bridges right? If your house catches on fire, someone is going to come put their life on the line to put it out right? If you injure yourself you can call 911, and within minutes people come to help.

If people fly planes into buildings, and we have to blow them up wherever they go, all of those missiles and people involved have no cost?

I was not even saying that taxes on the rich should be 90%, no one is saying that. It's simply pointing out that rates going up slightly (more so on dividends) is not a huge attack on the rich.

At the same time, I think that the government could be more efficient with their spending. For example, if we go over the fiscal cliff, spending will be cut on defense by like 10% or less and Panetta acts like it's going to be a huge deal. Granted it's 55 billion or something, but there is probably not an organization in existance that has 50 people or more, that couldn't cut 10% from somewhere and not notice. No private company I've ever worked was so efficient that any small cut like that would matter.

Bush screwed a lot of things up but it wasn't like he was the only person to blame for the recession. When looking at what you have to do to get things going in the right direction, sometimes you have to look at what occured to point you in the wrong direction and correct. The bush tax cuts and the wars are a large contributer to the deficits so looking at ways to address that makes sense.

[57hemicuda]

Its funny we had police and fire protection, a military etc. in the 60's and still kept a tax rate below 20%. What has changed??, oh yeah social spending. I'm all for making the military live within its means, along with all the all the other corporate welfare that needs to be stopped. But, the real fiscal problem right now, is direct payments to individuals. You can choose not to except that, but it doesn't change the fact that it will end up crushing us. The fall of Rome.

Again, all I here is Bush, no responsibilty for Obama's actions. Kind of a picture of todays society, isn't it.