Paint Shop recommendation

[70TWO NOVA]

Originally Posted by elitecustombody

I have no reason to try that Nason junk, but I tried 4th dimension as a "freebie" favor for one of my friends and will never use it again,I painted a front bumper ,hood and a fender for his 01 Z28, it was black and took nearly 5 coats to get the coverage ,Ultra 7000 will cover in one coat, so if you do the math, the cheap junk will cost more,as you will need alot more of it ,plus the smell of that junk was just plain nasty,it's like I just stepped next door at MAACO paint booth

im not saying Dimension is the best stuff in the world, but i dont think its as bad as some "professionals" make it out to be. The way i look at it is that for the price its a good all around product, no i wouldnt paint a show car with it. It seems like if you ask 10 painters about a product there will be 10 different opinions and there is always one who hates it and one who loves it.

[elitecustombody]

Originally Posted by 70TWO NOVA

im not saying Dimension is the best stuff in the world, but i dont think its as bad as some "professionals" make it out to be. The way i look at it is that for the price its a good all around product, no i wouldnt paint a show car with it. It seems like if you ask 10 painters about a product there will be 10 different opinions and there is always one who hates it and one who loves it.

next time, why don't you try the GM 99k or whatever is straight black and let me know how many coats it will take to get for that stuff to cover,

Like I said,it makes no sense to even try to use it,because you will need atleast twice of that cheap base to get the same coverage with premium basecoat ,in the end, you spend the same money and spend atleast double the amount of time spraying the cheap junk, so I know to me it makes no sense ,

If you want a better product at even better price than 4th Dimension, try Pro-Spray or Matrix, trust me, it's 100 times better , I haven't used Valspar in ages, but their sealers and base were pretty good, matching wasn't that great

[70TWO NOVA]

i have, i shot this 95 Camaro with GM black in Dimension and cleared with their Ultimate Overall Clearcoat. Took about 5 coats to cover completely. Heres some pics;

[racebuicks]

2 coats would have been more than enough with PPG anymore than that with black and your throwing money away

[70TWO NOVA]

i had a full gallon of it anyway, so i dont see the harm in using it all to cover the car, plus being regular black it was cheaper anyway. Its not like i ran out.

[elitecustombody]

Originally Posted by 70TWO NOVA

i have, i shot this 95 Camaro with GM black in Dimension and cleared with their Ultimate Overall Clearcoat. Took about 5 coats to cover completely. Heres some pics;

car look great, but you already said it yourself, it took 5 coat to cover,

Why don't you do the math, atleast twice of the basecoat,atleast twice the reducer,and atleast twice the time to spray it, does it make sense?

you spend same money or less for half of the amount of basecoat,atleast half or less of reducer and atleast half the time to spray the good stuff

Do you get what I'm saying?

[70TWO NOVA]

thanks, i get what you are saying, but it usually ends up being cheaper still than the "good stuff". i mean im in no way against other brands and qualities. I guess im just trying to say that the cheaper stuff can still produce as good results as the more expensive stuff.
What do you guys know about the life span/quality of the SW "Ultimate Overall Clear"

[racebuicks]

Originally Posted by 70TWO NOVA

thanks, i get what you are saying, but it usually ends up being cheaper still than the "good stuff". i mean im in no way against other brands and qualities. I guess im just trying to say that the cheaper stuff can still produce as good results as the more expensive stuff.
What do you guys know about the life span/quality of the SW "Ultimate Overall Clear"

I may not know about your paint quality. BUT...Here is what I do know.... I painted my 70 GS in 1985 I used PPG (at the time the very best material) and to this day I have yet to have to repaint it because the paint is faded. Oh yea it has 245000 miles on it now over 160 since it was painted. I have repolished it about 7 years ago to get scratches out thats it. In 92 I painted my street car and if you park them side by side you cant tell the difference in the paint. Once again only polish required to keep the "like new " finish still on it. I will figure the math out so you dont have too 1985 $1000 worth of product then..............2009 today that makes my paint job 25 years old divided by $1000 I have about nothing in my paint job right now and it still looks great. Now think about this when your cheaper brand of paint is this old will it be show car ready still after a quick hand glaze???...........really only time will tell. I would never use cheaper stuff on a car that Im painting as I dont like the odds. Your car looks fine Im just making a point, you have to see how time and the elements treat your paint. Once you have a LARGE amount of time then you can brag about the cheap stuff. I have customers out there all over the country that I have painted for and ALL of them are still looking great. I hope it lasts for you ...really I do.

[racebuicks]

Here is a picture of the car taken in 05 that I painted in 85

I dont have any good shots at home they are on the work computer

[70TWO NOVA]

thanks, i agree with you 100% that I have yet to see the long term durability. I guess all i can say for it right now is, so far so good.