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09-10-2018, 02:09 PM
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I'm with ya, but you take it as it is, not how you wish it to be.
When I built mine, I ended up tweaking or fixing the work of many. I can't imagine how the build would've went if I didn't have the skills to do it myself. The truth of the matter is the sorting out process is a major chunk of a sorted build that you can enjoy. Shops should really build in 50 hours to use and sort the car. It's a catalog of bastard parts in many cases that don't tango so nice.
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09-10-2018, 02:14 PM
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Me, as a consumer would not expect any sort of warranty on something I bought second hand. Even if it was "new" still...
Case in point, I bought a bunch of AirRide stuff from a fellow member. All new never used. He had it for years and then I've had it for years, you know how projects go... once I got everything installed and running I ran into a minor glitch. I needed a way to eliminate the brain as the culprit. I called up RideTech and asked George if there was any way they could run diagnostics on the ECU. He said "No problem..." and gave me a RA#. I made it 100% clear the parts were new but second hand. Told him I would gladly pay diag fees and shipping....
(There was nothing wrong with the ECU and I happily paid shipping, no other charges)
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09-10-2018, 02:23 PM
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I would agree to some extent. we have had customers buy product from Craigslist or where ever and be missing hardware or have questions we will gladly help them out. back in the day when before purchased Speedtech there were a bunch of control arm that got manufactured incorrectly and we replaced those damn things for 5 years!! as they continued to trickle in i think we replaced 30 sets of control arms we didn't even make them! WE ARE DONE NOW!! lol If the parts are "second hand" but still in the box say we would not do a return of the item, but would help out if need be. The frame thing...... that is a little tougher call but i think at the very least one would want to try and provide a solution?? either way it still has your name on it
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I agree and I try my best @ BMR with Old Stuff, but what I said before was a personal reply saying that there should be no expectation of a Warranty
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09-10-2018, 02:30 PM
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My thoughts on this exactly... We have neighbors here that are at complete odds with the home builder because things didn't work out exactly as they had "envisioned" with their new house. They are very much at fault for not only how they made changes in the original plans, but also how they handled the issues after the fact with the builder. They currently hate their new house because of all of the issues they've had to deal with. We are perfectly happy with how ours turned out...the issues have been almost non-existent. Same exact builder...
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When I built mine, I ended up tweaking or fixing the work of many. I can't imagine how the build would've went if I didn't have the skills to do it myself. The truth of the matter is the sorting out process is a major chunk of a sorted build that you can enjoy. Shops should really build in 50 hours to use and sort the car. It's a catalog of bastard parts in many cases that don't tango so nice.
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It falls into the "unrealistic expectations" folder if you ask me... Someone with a vested interested in making sure that everything plays nice with one another needs to be the one tweaking and tuning once the build is finished. They are never "finished" until they do the things they were designed and built to do with no issues...and there are ALWAYS issues...
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09-10-2018, 02:40 PM
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Me, as a consumer would not expect any sort of warranty on something I bought second hand. Even if it was "new" still...
Case in point, I bought a bunch of AirRide stuff from a fellow member. All new never used. He had it for years and then I've had it for years, you know how projects go... once I got everything installed and running I ran into a minor glitch. I needed a way to eliminate the brain as the culprit. I called up RideTech and asked George if there was any way they could run diagnostics on the ECU. He said "No problem..." and gave me a RA#. I made it 100% clear the parts were new but second hand. Told him I would gladly pay diag fees and shipping....
(There was nothing wrong with the ECU and I happily paid shipping, no other charges)
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I can relate to this. I bought my Mast electronics second hand, but brand new in the box, never opened. Guy didn’t want it with the Mast crate engine he bought. Well...I’ve had issues with the electronics from day one. I have mailed the ECM back to Mast twice now (just got it back last week actually), and Damon has spent a lot of time working on it. He had built me 2 different tunes from scratch, which takes a lot of time. He had to flow my current injectors in order to get the fueling right on my current tune, which takes a lot of time...and he might just be the busiest guy in the business. I’ve offered twice now to send money and he won’t have it. They stand behind their products, irregardless of who bought it. It has their name on it, and reputation is everything in this business. It’s still not right, and we agreed that I’d send it back this winter, when I can’t drive the car.
Marcus, I think I know what chassis your referring to. Guy had to cut it all up to make it work? I was shocked as well to hear the story.
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09-10-2018, 04:16 PM
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Marcus, I think I know what chassis your referring to. Guy had to cut it all up to make it work? I was shocked as well to hear the story.
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Yep, that's him Scott. Are you a member on Chevelles.com?
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09-10-2018, 04:34 PM
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Yep, that's him Scott. Are you a member on Chevelles.com?
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I am not. I don’t even remember where I read about it. It was a recent read for me, and I thought of you bro.
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09-10-2018, 04:35 PM
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i agree and i try my best @ bmr with old stuff, but what i said before was a personal reply saying that there should be no expectation of a warranty
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agree 100%
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I'm beginning to wonder - after 3 pro built cars and one amateurish built disaster..... how many guys own super expensive pro built cars that are disasters and they just don't have the balls to say so.
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