Who needs 1000hp?

[camcojb]

Originally Posted by clill

Actually the Mule was great on the track. We dialed the boost down so there would be no suprises but it probably would have been fine with more boost. I have had a Procharged big block that made 828rwhp on pump gas that would be a absolute bitch to drive on Power Tour.

Sissy!


Jody

[fatlife]

Originally Posted by clill

Actually the Mule was great on the track. We dialed the boost down so there would be no suprises but it probably would have been fine with more boost. I have had a Procharged big block that made 828rwhp on pump gas that would be a absolute bitch to drive on Power Tour. You would have to constatnly pay attention to what your right foot was doing. The Mule with the turbos drives like a 8 1/2 -1 comp smallblock unless you put your foot in it. I also have driven the effortless torque of the Red Witch, 532" 9-1 comp. All 3 are different but the Mule and Red Witch are both very easy to drive. Pump gas boost on the Mule is probably 700 hp ? and very easy to drive. A by-product of making 700 hp is the ability to turn the boost up to 1000 hp if desired. Most other 700 hp cars are alot less drivable. Maybe someday I can talk Mark into running laps with Camaro X and then turning the boost up on the Mule and running some laps and see what the differences are.

Very interesting, and a good point about other 700hp cars v tt 700hp. I think that would be a great comparison, if it would ever happen

[Streetking]

You are right, 1000hp is useless on the street, but it is fun to have. As Charlie said, a turbo car can be made to be more "driveable" than a radical big block. My Viper makes 940 rwh on 93 oct and 1278 rwh on 109. Even with 355's on the rear, it blows the tires at 100mph, but it's more docile than the 534ci n/a motor in the Camaro. Now I got to get a stronger diff set up if I want to go to the drag strip with it. I have more fun in my daily drive SC300 with a small single turbo that puts down 500rwh through a automatic because it's more "streetable" power. I seem to do alot more track events, so I do prefer n/a motors more. They seem to last alot longer when you run hard all day long..

SW

[fatlife]

Man your cars are all really shiny are you have the majic touch, cuz every pic I see always has those shiny glitter stars in them

I thought the SC was black with 505a's? man I can't keep track

[Streetking]

Originally Posted by fatlife

Man your cars are all really shiny are you have the majic touch, cuz every pic I see always has those shiny glitter stars in them

I thought the SC was black with 505a's? man I can't keep track

Thanks, the blk SC you were thinking of was my blk '97 with the Supra motor and 6spd in it. I went 10.1@144 in that car. I sold it to a friend of mine last year. I do have another blk '97, but it's got the same package as my white car except it has a bigger dual ball bearing turbo. I just got the blk car about 2 months ago. It has only 5k original miles on it, came from a old lady that never drove it. If she could only ride/see it now..

SW

[XcYZ]

Wow. Incedible cars, SW.

[rocketman]

[QUOTE=Streetking]You are right, 1000hp is useless on the street, but it is fun to have. As Charlie said, a turbo car can be made to be more "driveable" than a radical big block. My Viper makes 940 rwh on 93 oct and 1278 rwh on 109. Even with 355's on the rear, it blows the tires at 100mph, but it's more docile than the 534ci n/a motor in the Camaro. Now I got to get a stronger diff set up if I want to go to the drag strip with it. I have more fun in my daily drive SC300 with a small single turbo that puts down 500rwh through a automatic because it's more "streetable" power. I seem to do alot more track events, so I do prefer n/a motors more. They seem to last alot longer when you run hard all day long..

SW


Whats tire's on the rear of the viper.

[rwhite692]

What Charley said.

Personally I don't NEED this much power. Taken to extremes, I could say I dont NEED any of my car hobby stuff, at all....But my Chevelle had big power and was not very driveable on the street... My wife would not, ever, drive that car. So, I am going TT this time, because I WANT to have very docile "around town" behavior and to have big power on tap when I WANT it. That, and to keep things intersting and build something I haven't done before, etc...

[chicane]

Originally Posted by Roadrage David

on the streets and on the circuit* race track 550/600 hp is ALL you need ....

I completely agree.

I too have noticed this trend increasing. Especially on other boards.... you have a bunch of "dyno number queen's" that bicker about it all the time, on who's who and who you think you are because of it. Who cares really ??

The funny thing is, that these geeks throw down all this smack and get their package built and then find out that they have to replace everything behind it..... because they blew it up..... again.

Go look LS1tech.
"Uhhh... rear end making noise. What or why did this happen ??"
"I blew out my driveshaft again..... why ??"
"Im on my enth set of u-joints, what to try next ??"
"What is a good rearend... I keep blowing mine up ??"

Maybe because you've dropped a 415cid and 300 shot into your 3500lb street car with a mini truck 7.5" differential ??

And they actually bitch about the cost of certain things..... Like "Why does Katech get so much for their engines / or shortblocks ??" "How can they ask for so much, its rediculous ??"

Probably because you have never been in the 1k hp arena before and that is what it costs ?? Not to mention that there is a damn good reason that they have the heritage they have and won the title's they possess.

Here's a great example of this..... right here.

Pretty damn funny thou Yodemiser.

[Speedster]

Who NEEDS 1000 hp ? No one.
Who WANTS 1000 hp ? Some do, some don't.
Why 1000 hp ? Because you can.

Technology, reliability and availablility have made this type of number possible. And we are not talking drag-only trailer queens. With the easy access to turbos, centrifugals, intercoolers, EFI, crank trigger, 5/6 speeds, overdrive autos, paddle shifters, etc. power and speed have become easier and easier.

So whatever trips your trigger, fine. I just hope that everyone stays safe. Easy access to this power can be dangerous. I see this in the boating world too. Ten years ago fast boats went 80. Just a few went 100. Now the bar is 140 and a couple around 160. Some of these people are now dead. In the past 2 months half a dozen people were killed who couldn't handle power. We are reaching the point where 10 times as many people can afford this level of power, and I bet each one of you can think of a half a dozen people that would terrify you with 1000 hp. Especially if kids are involved. Can you image a newly licensed 17 year old out with 3 friends ?

Along with many of you, I consider myself a g-force/power/acceleration addict. I also have incredible respect for that and drive accordingly.

Just my .02 cents