Camaro X...

[shineym3]

I noticed that on DSE's website they say the largest tire wheel you could fit upfront is, "With the stock suspension, the largest front tire is a P245/45R17 on an 8 inch rim or a P245/45R16 on an 8 inch rim. Areas to watch for signs of tire/wheel contact are; tire inner sidewall to subframe under full lock steering, wheel inner to stock upper control arm during full lock steering, tire outer sidewall to fender lip especially on 1969 models.".

While it's obvious that X has anything BUT a stock suspension how was an 18x9 wheel shoe-horned in there and not rub?

Incidentally, how frickin' cool would it be to see a comparison of the Mark/Charley cars? I for one would love to see how a no-expense-spared car like Mule would compare to a "simpler" car like X!!!!!!!!!! Getting Mark to drive each car not only for the consistency but also his driving ability and familiarity with each car and you've got one for the ages. Anybody feel like doing some butt-kissing???

[XcYZ]

Fun idea, but how do you quantify the results?

[shineym3]

I think you could go a bunch of different directions with the idea; perhaps a poll of what others really wanted to see would be a good idea. For one, I think almost a Real Street Eliminator (hp & ft.lbs., 1/4 mile, braking, fuel economy, closed circuit lap time, ride and drive, etc.) concept would be a good place to start as it's using criteria that the big name magazines have already figured out is something readers want and can relate to.

While I had the idea originally coming from a sheer entertainement perspective, I have also realized how PRACTICAL something like this would be when building your own car. The other intangible is that one would have a really good idea of how cars like this stack up against actual production cars. Probably a lot better idea also to let guys like Mark and Charley give us an idea of what the limits on these cars are than us try and figure it out ourselves only to become a grease spot somewhere!

That's just one idea, what do you think?

[J2SpeedandCustom]

We have a 9" wheel in front with a 255/40/18 on it. Stock subframe, DSE suspension, coilovers, etc. Running a pretty low ride height with no rubbing but you do have to shorten the turning radius slightly. The car drives and handles beyond our expectation!

[shineym3]

Thanks for letting me know! Do you happen to know what the backspacing is for those wheels? How did your figure out what the maximum turning radius was?

[lil427z]

i bought dse new ft chassis for my 69 camaro camaro i will be running 18x10s on the ft .
kyle told me that was the way to go.


rick k

[J2SpeedandCustom]

Originally Posted by shineym3

Thanks for letting me know! Do you happen to know what the backspacing is for those wheels? How did your figure out what the maximum turning radius was?

5.25" for my setup. This puts the rim about 3/8" from the steering arm end. The turning radius was easy. Once the car is at ride height you turn the wheel from side to side. The outside wheel well is where the rubbing would be if you didn't limit the amount of turning. We are a 1/4 turn of the steering wheel from full lock so it didn't limit it much.

[98ssnova]

Originally Posted by shineym3

I noticed that on DSE's website they say the largest tire wheel you could fit upfront is, "With the stock suspension, the largest front tire is a P245/45R17 on an 8 inch rim or a P245/45R16 on an 8 inch rim. Areas to watch for signs of tire/wheel contact are; tire inner sidewall to subframe under full lock steering, wheel inner to stock upper control arm during full lock steering, tire outer sidewall to fender lip especially on 1969 models.".

While it's obvious that X has anything BUT a stock suspension how was an 18x9 wheel shoe-horned in there and not rub?

Incidentally, how frickin' cool would it be to see a comparison of the Mark/Charley cars? I for one would love to see how a no-expense-spared car like Mule would compare to a "simpler" car like X!!!!!!!!!! Getting Mark to drive each car not only for the consistency but also his driving ability and familiarity with each car and you've got one for the ages. Anybody feel like doing some butt-kissing???

When camaro X was built it did have a stock subframe modded with ATS goodies so that is probally why the tire width?

[clill]

Maybe you can talk Scott out of his subframe for cheap....

[Blake Foster]

We can certainly put together different sub frame packages now
Full sub
Stock sub with chicane conversion
Stock sub with qa1 GMp coil over conversion
Stock sub with arms.
Ad in a lee box and all new lingage or unisteer rack

ATS spindles on any of the above packages

lots of different options to fit any budget.