The Mule or Motion Camaro. - Page 5 - Lateral-g Forums

**Steve Chryssos** · #41 11-10-2005, 11:44 AM

I don't know boys. We have not learned much detail on the Motion SuperCoupe, but if you look at the engineering involved in Time Machine's Six Shooter 'cuda, the competition may be closer than you think.

http://www.timemachinesinc.com/6shooterpics.htm

I'm not trying to be a Mule heretic, I just think we're entering a new era where full frame cars with engine setback, channeled bodies and 4 wheel independent suspension will dominate.

As for thrashing the Johnson 'Cuda: If one can afford the entry fee, then one can afford the repairs.

**Ricochet** · #42 11-10-2005, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by streetfytr68

I don't know boys. We have not learned much detail on the Motion SuperCoupe, but if you look at the engineering involved in Time Machine's Six Shooter 'cuda, the competition may be closer than you think.

http://www.timemachinesinc.com/6shooterpics.htm

I'm not trying to be a Mule heretic, I just think we're entering a new era where full frame cars with engine setback, channeled bodies and 4 wheel independent suspension will dominate.

As for thrashing the Johnson 'Cuda: If one can afford the entry fee, then one can afford the repairs.

Steve- I agree with you on all of the above. No doubt Time Machine builds some killer stuff. The world of these cars are evolving & changing daily. It's cars like Motion's Camaro & Johnson's Cuda the keeps forward progress in the hobby. If the envelope doesn't get pushed, the hobby will go stagnet. It's kinda like racing..You always want to go faster.

As far as the Cuda, I can't afford the repairs, much less the entry fee!! LOL!!

**Bill Howell** · #43 11-10-2005, 12:01 PM

Like several have said, it would depend on my plans. Giving both cars were free, if I was selling, I guess it would be the motion car. I would think 427K+ tax would be getting dangerously close to double the value of the mule. I may be a bit short, but surely the mule could be duplicated for 250K-300K. Regardless, I am sure Charley would intertain offers less than the 427K asking price for the motion car.Having looked the motion car over pretty good, there are things I did not like. At the asking price, one can be picky.
As far as driving, no doubt the mule. It was purposely built to be driven, not sit on a revolving stand. I really doubt even those with deep pockets will actually drive the motion cars.

kennyd · #44 11-10-2005, 02:18 PM

i vote for the motion car , as soon as i got it i would change the wheels .

**Rybar** · #45 11-10-2005, 04:30 PM

My vote is for the Mule, clean, simple and functional. The Motion car's looks + price are way over the top.

awr68 · #46 11-10-2005, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rybar

My vote is for the Mule, clean, simple and functional. The Motion car's looks + price are way over the top.

I totally agree! I like Mark's 'KISS' approach to his builds, it makes them updated but timeless at the same time...this I am a huge fan of!

The Motion car has a few things I really like...but I have to say, it is leaning towards Pro-Show with the over the top design and all that red. My fear is that PT, L-G cars will get to showy and not as drivable...remember this is what killed Pro Street, they just got unusable!

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for detailed cars, after all, I've spent weeks now finish welding and smoothing the welds on the bottom of my car so I can shoot it body color and have it look like something...but the suspension and engine wont be all polished out like a show car...I'm going for the clean, detailed, and fully functional look, everythig will remain raw aluminum or be painted black.

My vote is for The Mule...the one you could actually drive on the street or track without stressing about the over the top price tag. Not that The Mule isn't worth a small fortune... I just see it worth EVERY penney it would take to buy it, knowing it would be much less than the Motion price tag...I personally don't see any camaro worth 400k...especially when others can have the exact same thing...that should be one-off pricing at best! See the Mule is one up right there!

Oh, and as for the Mule's wheels, I love them! I think they are perfect for it's personality...after all, the car is almost a sleeper with the silver paint, very clean lines, quiet exhaust, and damn near hidden cage...Damn I love that car!!

Charley I need a ride next time I'm in Ca!!

PRO TC · #47 11-10-2005, 10:27 PM

mule! mule! mule! and charlie if i had the money the mule would be mine. just waiting to win the lotto.

barry

Al Moreno · #48 11-11-2005, 01:04 AM

I think the Motion's Camaro could probably be build for around $300K. The rest of the cost is profit for the motion guys who are not turning a nut.

**clill** · #49 11-11-2005, 01:18 AM

This survey is kinda slanted my way because of the site. If you posted the same survey on Camaro's.net or Hot Rod's forum you might get a very different answer.

zbugger · #50 11-11-2005, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by clill

This survey is kinda slanted my way because of the site. If you posted the same survey on Camaro's.net or Hot Rod's forum you might get a very different answer.

Damn voice of reason. Where the hell did you come from?

In all honesty, I still prefer the Mule. It's silver. Ok, so it's not just that. It's because at a simple look that you would get at a stop light, people would just see a nice car. They wouldn't know what it really is. The Motion camaro is a LOT of attention. That's also a reason I like Pasqual's brothers car. Simple, yet DAMN!!!!