DSE Subframe Press Release with pictures

[Stuart Adams]

For all the research and costs involved in bringing this piece to the public, trust me 6700 is a bargain. You will never loose on it.

G- Body, try and work on some grammar and spelling. Its hard reading your posts, that is the least you can do.

So many people look at the price, if you bought something for 30 K that was quality and engineered well and sold it for 30K you come out even. If you spent 20K for non quality and sold it for 10K then you lost 10K, but only spent 20K. Simple economics, look at value big boy!

[Sales@Dutchboys]

Thank you Stuart!!!

[G-Body]

Great point! finally someone gets it, http://www.cachassisworks.com/downlo...l14_71-105.pdf
heres the info. You know what this just may be all for nothin the good points made from both ends, When Detroit only sells a small amount of these "GREAT" frames at that number, besides im sure its not cheap to have too pay for a machine that hydroforms, lol and when they sell less than expected you guys that have bought them for that price will feel a little silly when a year or two later there selling them there or on ebay for a couple grand cant wait to see how Detroit frame performs with some real power sitting in its saddle!

[mazspeed]

Originally Posted by G-Body

Money is not a problem, Being smart enough to make good purchases is.

If money is not a problem, then why bash on something you don't know anything about? Just because you don't have the money and others do, doesn't mean that the product you think is best is. Fact is, you really don't have a clue on what you're talking about. You should research Corvette geometry and Mustang 2 geometry. It's a world of difference, and this is one reason why your argument carries no weight. This I can say. The Detroit piece is far superior in construction due to the hydroforming, corvette style geometry, and build quality then an Alston piece. Yes it's going to handle better, and be stronger. This is why this frame is more expensive, but I'm sure you didn't know this already. You really should know your facts before you open your piehole and call it and us suckers for buying the product.

[Steve1968LS2]

Originally Posted by G-Body

Wow I step away for a few hours and you guys make a mountain out of an aunt hill! no i dont work for alston and nor do i care, But my point is. unless you are reading other than you want to read out of all this, there is other products out there, and i havent bashed Detroit i have said they make a great peice just not for the money and it hasnt been out long enough to prove my point different as of yet anyone can type how good there product is, time will tell its a great idea but a good point was made by "leadfoot1" with normal street drving you are not going to notice that much of a difference, and with that said your out of $6,700 Jack compared to a better looking and "Probably" handling peice time will tell but for the money and from what i'm reading dont think the money would be justified also were not even talking about the other frames. Ones that you have mention and even the total cost unit that is made, they make a great tubular peice so to each his own, and as for me, Money is not a problem, Being smart enough to make good purchases is.

Once again you failed to answer my questions which leads me to believe you really don't know what you are talking about..

I guess to be blunt you're just talking out your ass and have zero data to back up your claims

[Sales@Dutchboys]

What did DSE ever do to you man?

[G-Body]

Steve what do you wish to know

[Sales@Dutchboys]

Also....If you ever had any contact with kyle in person....This guy knows what the hell he it talking about...that subframe probuly would out handle anything you could come up with....he aint no dummy......

-Paul

[mazspeed]

Originally Posted by G-Body

Steve what do you wish to know

Do you not read his posts?

[Steve1968LS2]

Originally Posted by Leadfoot1

...I looked at DSE's website and could not find any specs regarding suspension geometry...Aside from the introduction at the beginning of this thread, what do we have to work with so we can compare?

Steeve, please don't lock up this thread i'd really like to see the end results!

I understand nobody has the same budget. But i tend to share a bit of this "Too expensiveness" from DSE. I posted a thread once about their 4 point cage selling for 650$ ( ) when you can get an SnW or Comp 10 point (very nice products that can compare in every way) for 200$....This is kinda ridiculous don't you think? I mean, even if you have the dough, at some point, it becomes a thing of the inflatable neighbourgh....No?

Lead.

I won't lock it.. I'm just annoyed when people jabber on and make stupid statments based on "feelings".. if you are gonna say XYZ is better the ABC then how about a reason other than "it's cheaper" and "it looks better"..

I also stepped in on another site when someone proclaimed the DSE sub as "the best one on the market".. that was a silly statement since we don't know much about it yet. DSE has all the data and I'm sure at some point they will share what they can. Hell, the product was just introduced last weekend.

Lead, price is a funny thing.. on one hand you have a Seiko watch for $20.. it tells you the time and maybe even the date.. so why is a Rolex watch $3000? It does the same function. The difference is in quality and there are people in the world willing to pay more for higher quality item that does roughly the same thing. The DSE roll bar fits better than a SW unit and has a few more features that people are willing to spend the extra cash for. Does it do the same thing as the SW cage? yep.. Is it higher quality? yep.. and people with the cash are willing to spend it on products that are just a little bit better than the less expensive stuff. It's why people spend $300,000 on a Ferrari when a $70,000 Z06 would kick it's ass..