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Old 08-21-2006, 12:59 PM
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I wonder if you could buy one of these in pieces and haul it to someone like Mike's Custom Cars who is well know for re-sheetmetaling first gen's and doing an excellent job.

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That is a good question. American Muscle Car in So Cal (the guys who built my body) is also well knowf for re-sheetmetaling these cars. This is why Classic industries used them for their car, which was a basket case and needed every panel replaced. However, their contract with Dynacorn requires them to assemble these bodies using defined parameters and techniques, and does not allow for anything that would be considered "bodywork". Apparently they use that term pretty liberally too. I am sure they would be building a much better quality product if they had the ability to straighten the body out as they assembled it, and charge for the time.
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Old 08-21-2006, 01:14 PM
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Ah, the pass side quarter rears it's ugly head once again. I have the same problem with my CARS built 69 vert body. I talked to the Year one guys at the Columbus GGs. They bought the blue car's body from CARS. The YR1 guys said there is something wrong with stamping around the floor on the pass side which leads to poor quarter fitment and issues lining up the leaf spring pocket. I have a DSE quad link under mine and I had to remove all of the adjustability of the swivel links in order to bolt the lower link arm into the leaf spring pocket.


I don't know about the SC shop that you got yours from, but CARS does not test fit the doors, deck lid and top prior to shipping. QA is completely absent. All of the stuff in the Hot Rod article is pure B.S. The pass door on my car fits like sh*T as does the deck lid. You can see where they have widened the tail pan bolt holes inorder to line it up with the inner structure. I haven't checked the angle of the a-pillars but YR1 said to expect them to be off. I am waiting until I have the sub underneath and all of the metal on before I continue to press CARS. I hope your car is put together better.



You are right, for 10Grand, I expect better.
A little about CARS inc:
No, I doubt they have built a car using their 17 digit VIN. The stamp they use is so weak that when they primer the car in that god awful red oxide, you can't read the numbers. They use the Federal Re-bodying act to transfer VINs from old wrecked verts to these new bodies being built for turn key. Their original plan was to issue a MSO and license their cars for the HOT ROD replicas in partnership with HOT ROD Magazine. Apparently customers do want to title their cars as 69 camaros for 90 grand so that is why they transfer VIN plates. I received a certificate of origin that does not state that they are a manufacturer (because they aren't), it only decribes that it is a replica body and it lists the serial number assigned.
I wondered what the f*ck was going on with the spring pocket! I had to open up the holes in the spring pocket big time to move it far enough forward to get good rear end alignment. There is no adjustability in the Air Bar lower links.

I fear that my body is no better than yours. As I go over the car, it is almost as if there was a competent guy working on the left side of the car, and a retard working on the right. They claim to have test fit the doors and trunk lid. I just got my car rolling on the ground this weekend, so I have not tried to put either on yet. Just eyeballing the trunk, I see issues. That is disappointing to hear about the A-pillars. I guess it is not safe to assume anything about this body is right.

Yeah, I received the same certificate. It will basically just serve as proof of purchase when I take the car to get inspected by the state and apply for a new VIN.

Thank you very much for the insight I will look for photos of your car. Keep me posted.

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Old 08-22-2006, 12:56 AM
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" a compentent guy on the drivers side and a retard on the right". That is exactly what I said to my old man. I am now convinced that Dynacorn's JIG design is off. I had asked the salesman at CARS (Dirk) if they were breaking in a rookie on the pass side. The GL deck lid I have sucks (gaps on both sides) and even an original isn't much better. YR1's people said that Dynacorn will be making better aftermarket decklids soon. Either way, that pass quarter will have to come off and the pass door will need metal added to it and possibly even the drivers door. I haven't located the brackets and bolts that mount the top frame to the car, so I can't tell if my a pillars are off yet. I would like to visciously beat the editor of Hot Rod with a rolled up copy of that article proclaiming how great the production bodys would be.

I look forward to seeing more pics of your vert. I haven't done much to mine in a few months and won't be able to for several more. I will post some of mine when I get a chance. ( I justed started another tour in Iraq.)

I have only scratched the surface of the registration process, so I will probably hit you up for the gouge later on. My car is actually in Denton, TX, where I'm from.
YR1 is supposed to be releasing a guide to building a crate Camaro soon. Should be invaluable while putting one together.
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Old 08-22-2006, 01:14 AM
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it sucks to here all those problems that ya have with the body ,but when its all finished you will forget about them and enjoy your ride.
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Old 08-22-2006, 01:54 PM
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" a compentent guy on the drivers side and a retard on the right". That is exactly what I said to my old man. I am now convinced that Dynacorn's JIG design is off. I had asked the salesman at CARS (Dirk) if they were breaking in a rookie on the pass side. The GL deck lid I have sucks (gaps on both sides) and even an original isn't much better. YR1's people said that Dynacorn will be making better aftermarket decklids soon. Either way, that pass quarter will have to come off and the pass door will need metal added to it and possibly even the drivers door. I haven't located the brackets and bolts that mount the top frame to the car, so I can't tell if my a pillars are off yet. I would like to visciously beat the editor of Hot Rod with a rolled up copy of that article proclaiming how great the production bodys would be.

I look forward to seeing more pics of your vert. I haven't done much to mine in a few months and won't be able to for several more. I will post some of mine when I get a chance. ( I justed started another tour in Iraq.)

I have only scratched the surface of the registration process, so I will probably hit you up for the gouge later on. My car is actually in Denton, TX, where I'm from.
YR1 is supposed to be releasing a guide to building a crate Camaro soon. Should be invaluable while putting one together.
Thanks for the warning on the quarter. I beleive it. At a minimum, it will have to be broken loose in the b-pillar area, and have metal added. Fortunately there are some pretty good guys in Houston for that kind of stuff.

FYI, the aftermarket decklids have had the same issues for many years, and I would not expect to see any significant improvements anytime soon. Hang onto your original if you have one and have your body guy make it look good.

I sent a follow up on the top frame attaching hardware. I would not count on truly being able to tell if the a-pillars are right simply by test fitting the top frame. There is a lot of adjustability in the frame, and you could trick yourself into thinking it is OK simply by adjusting to wherever the pillars are. The Fisher Body manual should have the specs. I will check on this tonight and follow up with you.

You know we appreciate what you are doing out there! Come home safe and finish that car.

Cam69,
Thanks for the vote of confidence!
Another fellow Texan.
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Old 10-25-2006, 06:55 PM
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it sucks to here all those problems that ya have with the body ,but when its all finished you will forget about them and enjoy your ride.
Unless, of course, one intention in putting so much money into a car like this would be to really show it off to all interested hoping they don't see the flaws.

I have a '67 and have replaced (ok, i HAD someone replace) every panel on the car. When I first got underway, I was really disappointed that there was not an aftermarket '67 coupe available to start from but I sure am glad now. I have already spent more than it would take to get into one of those bodies (and am no farther along than what would show up on a crate), but I have a VIN and feel that the work done in replacing the panels was well done. I did talk to the guys at my shop about the Dynacorn bodies, and they had the same opinion as everyone else - nothing fits.

Thib - I surte would like some feedback from you re: the AirBar bracketry, how well it is made, how beefy it seems, and how it works with the coilovers.
PLEASE!
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Old 08-29-2007, 07:30 PM
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Any updates?
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:49 AM
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anyone watch muscle car in spiketv's power block they bought a convertable body and built a car out of it some one year ones giving away.they had to do alot of body work on it to everything up to there standards.if you cant get a vin you can always licenses it as a kit car and the dmv gives a sticker for the drivers door thats the vin.
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Old 08-30-2007, 09:06 AM
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anyone watch muscle car in spiketv's power block they bought a convertable body and built a car out of it some one year ones giving away.they had to do alot of body work on it to everything up to there standards.if you cant get a vin you can always licenses it as a kit car and the dmv gives a sticker for the drivers door thats the vin.
Chop cut rebuild built a '67 Dynacorn body. Looked like a can of worms.
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Old 08-30-2007, 09:37 AM
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Murtah is a very good customer, I think he bought everything but the body from us. I know he is still fighting his and getting ready to send it for P and B while he is on another tour accross the pond.
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