Modern Classic Interiors (MCI) issue.

[Tonyj]

Saw this on another Forum. I talked with Michael a couple of weeks ago about making a headliner for my 73, said they were to busy to take on another project.
I ordered a complete kit for my 73 Camaro, I just received the dash and door panels Thursday. The console and back side panels should be here in the next week or two. Ill let you know when they show up.
This is the third time I've used Modern Classics. Ive waited on some of the parts in the past, but they always seem to deliver exceptional parts.
I think your assessment of Mr. Ball is way off.

[weircc]

NO he's spot on!!! Every forum you can find negative feedback!! Its been the same story for a few years with this guy! Total fraud. That's why he only excepts checks. Because if you use PayPal, credit card you can file dispute and get your money back.

[Grnova]

Originally Posted by Tonyj

Saw this on another Forum. I talked with Michael a couple of weeks ago about making a headliner for my 73, said they were to busy to take on another project.
I ordered a complete kit for my 73 Camaro, I just received the dash and door panels Thursday. The console and back side panels should be here in the next week or two. Ill let you know when they show up.
This is the third time I've used Modern Classics. Ive waited on some of the parts in the past, but they always seem to deliver exceptional parts.
I think your assessment of Mr. Ball is way off.

Post some pictures of the stuff you got.

[Tonyj]

Originally Posted by weircc

NO he's spot on!!! Every forum you can find negative feedback!! Its been the same story for a few years with this guy! Total fraud. That's why he only excepts checks. Because if you use PayPal, credit card you can file dispute and get your money back.

Did they rip you off?

[weircc]

After 25 calls,emails,private messages, later I finally got my stuff which I clearly stated. But however I was lied to just as everyone else is and was!! 2 months after the fact that and I "quote" on the shelf ready to ship!! I have no doubt in my mind if I wouldn't have started leaving negative feedback I would've never seen it!! And since you have been on the forum since Jan 2017 and your first post was here, I'm betting your either him or a close friend trying to save grace for MCI. But as stated in the previous post let's see them pictures?? Also kinda funny the Facebook page is gone as well. Everyone on this forum works hard for their money. And even harder for extra money to spend on their cars, hobbies, etc... buyer beware!!!

[Tonyj]

Originally Posted by weircc

After 25 calls,emails,private messages, later I finally got my stuff which I clearly stated. But however I was lied to just as everyone else is and was!! 2 months after the fact that and I "quote" on the shelf ready to ship!! I have no doubt in my mind if I wouldn't have started leaving negative feedback I would've never seen it!! And since you have been on the forum since Jan 2017 and your first post was here, I'm betting your either him or a close friend trying to save grace for MCI. But as stated in the previous post let's see them pictures?? Also kinda funny the Facebook page is gone as well. Everyone on this forum works hard for their money. And even harder for extra money to spend on their cars, hobbies, etc... buyer beware!!!

I haven't had the opportunity to meet anyone from Modern Classics in person, just on the phone. My experience with Modern Classics was different.
My projects aren't time sensitive, so waiting for the parts isn't a problem.
Im curious if anyone has been ripped off by these guys. If so I would like to know about it. I joined this forum to see if i could find a composite headliner for my 73. I am a busy man, I'm don't waste much time online, This is just a research outlet. Im not looking for an argument. I simply don't agree.

[grendel]

Originally Posted by Tonyj

I haven't had the opportunity to meet anyone from Modern Classics in person, just on the phone. My experience with Modern Classics was different.
My projects aren't time sensitive, so waiting for the parts isn't a problem.
Im curious if anyone has been ripped off by these guys. If so I would like to know about it. I joined this forum to see if i could find a composite headliner for my 73. I am a busy man, I'm don't waste much time online, This is just a research outlet. Im not looking for an argument. I simply don't agree.

It's a tough position to be in. Michael G Ball will tell you anything you want to hear, or not communicate at all for months at a time.

I received most of my order two weeks after I was supposed to.

It's been 3 months waiting on my rear panels I paid 500.00 for.

I have sent multiple email, left voice mail and even a Facebook post that was deleted - I got blocked from posting there. Interesting thing is that he posted a different/new email address in lieu of a response to my request.

Eventually, I had to contact local law enforcement and funny, I got this response on Friday, 2/10/2017:

"Your rear panels will be shipped out Today or tomorrow. The guys at the shop made molds off of your parts. Sorry for the delay.

Sent on the new Sprint Network
"

This is from his old email address.

Now if "the guys at the shop" were using my panels to make molds from, that is something that should be communicated... at any point during the time elapsed.

I'd love to find the shop that's doing these for him. If it's his shop, he should hire someone to manage the business. They make an awesome project. He's just a ****ty communicator and I don't like to gamble on timelines.

[grendel]

As it turns out, local law enforcement hadn't contacted him. That was today.

I replied to his Friday email saying they'd ship Friday or Saturday today to ask about tracking.

Edit to add:

He has at least two business' - the other one is Velocity Engineering. I don't think they make the parts, either. I think it's his design firm, where they may build a prototype or two. He lists himself as owner/lead designer there

www.velocity-engineering.com

Again, nice stuff.

[Grnova]

He has other shops make the products, when he gets them back he final details and ships them out. He is at the mercy of the other shops. When I went looking for him,I caught him in the process of moving his shop and found out how his operation works (at least back then). take it for what it worth, thats just my experience.

[z28orshoot]

After many more unanswered calls, emails, BBB complaints, bank complaints etc, I answered the door to a box with the console I ordered. There was no reciept, invoice, etc on the box other than the shipping tag. It was well packed and console looks great. I still have not had contact with anyone from them after my original call.

If this company would communicate better, return calls or emails, and keep accurate shipping times then they could not make stuff fast enough. Work is fantastic for fiberglass work, poor communication.

Having said that, If you want to order from them, its your choice but I would suggest ordering at the beginning of your project and forgetting you ever ordered it. It may arrive in a week or months later but the work, when you receive it is fantastic.