Danny Popp Wins 2011 Optima Ultimate Street Car Invitational - Page 6 - Lateral-g Forums

73CPCAMARO · #51 11-07-2011, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by clill

Hey Brian...Once again....Can I have it ? Great car.

Thanks and still no

The car is more fun than I imagined it would be!

coolwelder62 · #52 11-07-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 96z28ss

I'd like to see this get added to the rules. What street car doesn't have this?

Carpet
Wipers
Heat and the defrost must work.
Side windows must roll up and down.
test to see all lights working properly
horn

Lets stay true the title of the event. Optima Ultimate Street Car Invitational.

I am glad they didnt have these rules in place this year.As Albert was pulling out of my Drive way Fri night before sema I was trying get him to stay 3 hours longer so I could plug in the switches for the heat defroster,and put on the wiper blades.But he wouldnt slow down said he had to go.Just ran out of time.The car will get everything finished when he heads this way on his way home.

**camcojb** · #53 11-07-2011, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by streetfytr68

Which part of TIE is getting lost in the translation? The stereotypical pro-touring car tied the bad motherfrucker modern Z06 and beat out the cars without side windows.

I'd say that tie represents spectacular news for pro-touring and the rules are 100% spot on. Last I checked, Optima makes batteries for all kinds of cars. And if DSE decides to make parts for C6 vettes some day, their 1st and 2nd gen Camaro parts will still work well and sell well.

It's a good day for hot rodding. Bad day for belly-aching.

I very much enjoyed my first Optima Ultimate Street Car Invitational.
/Steevo

Steve,

it only tied because of the fourth part of the judging, styling. Popp must have scored very low there to end up in a tie. He won first in autocross and road course, and placed well in the speed stop. If it wasn't for the show car part, and the event was just rated on the three performance sections he would have won by a mile. And in my opinion he should have won, he earned it.

But it's not, and the styling section is one-fourth of the event, and an equalizer to the later model cars. They won't score as well there in almost all cases, so that kind of equalizes things, and that's why it's there.

My point is that on a purely performance level the older stuff has really showed what it can do, but it will not be able to beat the late model Vettes, etc. on a head-to-head basis with equivalent drivers.

I am not complaining at all, and am very proud of the older cars that ran with (and beat) the late model stuff in some areas.

**GregWeld** · #54 11-07-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by clill

Hey Brian...Once again....Can I have it ? Great car.

Hey! Jack just called and he wants his car back and says he has a title.....

LOL

I agree with you Charley! I want it and I don't even like Orange... well... or yellow either... but obviously I don't let that get in the way!

Great car - great guys...

**Rybar** · #55 11-07-2011, 05:06 PM

Congrats to all the competitors it would be nice to see a run down of the events and competitors at some point.

I'd have to say one rule they might want to think about is banning tire warmers!

**Steve Chryssos** · #56 11-07-2011, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by camcojb

Steve,

it only tied because of the fourth part of the judging, styling. Popp must have scored very low there to end up in a tie. He won first in autocross and road course, and placed well in the speed stop. If it wasn't for the show car part, and the event was just rated on the three performance sections he would have won by a mile. And in my opinion he should have won, he earned it.

But it's not, and the styling section is one-fourth of the event, and an equalizer to the later model cars. They won't score as well there in almost all cases, so that kind of equalizes things, and that's why it's there.

My point is that on a purely performance level the older stuff has really showed what it can do, but it will not be able to beat the late model Vettes, etc. on a head-to-head basis with equivalent drivers.

I am not complaining at all, and am very proud of the older cars that ran with (and beat) the late model stuff in some areas.

Understood. And if it were not for the powerful style of our older cars, many would just run out and buy new 'vettes, so style matters. It's exciting to see pro-touring cars placed in context relative to other enthusiast cars--new and old.

As for street vs race, Detroit Speed participated in Grassroots Motorsports Ultimate Track Car Challenge where many street cars participate. With Danny Popp driving, Stacy's 69 Camaro finished THIRTY-FIRST overall. Danny finished 3rd in his own race prepped vette. But that same 69 was amongst the fastest street cars on hand--top two or three fastest true street cars, if I recall. That's some interesting comparison data--especially since Danny was driving the 69.

A lot of us expected to see Z06, Z06, GT-R, race car with plates, etc at OUSCI 2011. Instead, 100% streetworthy pro-touring cars rocked it. Long term, good things will happen if pro-touring cars are displayed in context.

I, for one, would LOVE to see how Charley's AWD Launch Control Porsche stacks up against Quadra Deuce. See? Bring it.

Sti_Guy · #57 11-07-2011, 05:46 PM

Looking at the pedigree of some of the drivers it looks a little like it’s become a driver’s competition. The cars are one aspect but, looking at how well all the cars were built maybe having an independent pro driver test the top 5 in the track events would showcase what the cars can really do and how they stack up against each other.

Jimi-FM3 · #58 11-07-2011, 05:51 PM

Thanks to everyone for the feedback, keep it coming. We're paying close attention....

**camcojb** · #59 11-07-2011, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimi-FM3

Thanks to everyone for the feedback, keep it coming. We're paying close attention....

Jimi,

This is my favorite race event. You guys have done an incredible job with it and I for one greatly appreciate the effort you and Optima, as well as all the others have put into making it as cool as it is.

I hope we don't come across as complaining, just sharing opinions and ideas. I want this event to prosper, that's a fact.

**Stuart Adams** · #60 11-07-2011, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by camcojb

Jimi,

This is my favorite race event. You guys have done an incredible job with it and I for one greatly appreciate the effort you and Optima, as well as all the others have put into making it as cool as it is.

I hope we don't come across as complaining, just sharing opinions and ideas. I want this event to prosper, that's a fact.

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