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Old 06-06-2013, 06:53 AM
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My issue with 14/15 on bikes is the seam in the surface (read curb) it was right at what I felt was the ideal apex and I could never find a shallow line that would generate drive out of 15, the deep line over the seam upset the chassis enough that you were wide on exit or feathering throttle trying to keep from going wide.

Entering 1 on the bike was keep it pinned past the tower and turn in to into the pit lane once past the pit lane wall stab the brakes and turn it in and get on the throttle.

If I'm not mistaken the key to a stable chassis going into 8 starts will nailing 6's apex/exit so you can pin 7 and pray through 8......

With the bike a slight lift to trailing throttle going into 8 was enough to maintain confidence. (does that bank look scarier in car than a bike, not sure which would be worse?) That corner is a rush when you get it close to right............so are 9 a & b pinning to toward the horizon, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, etc........what a great track!!

Don't worry G, you'll do fine, get used to the new stuff in the am then focus on having a good time maximizing your lines on the track..........not the infield.
Thanks Sieg. Your memory serves you well. I can see how the surface on the outside in between 14 and 15 would make it difficult for a bike.

You also nailed 6,7, & 8. 6 isn't bad, its the transition from 7 and getting through 8 that has me puckering and pray is putting it lightly.

Sounds like we take turn 1 exactly the same only I want to try and lay off of the brake a bit more than I have been.

I honestly feel I'm losing a good 1 second through 1 and a good 1 second through 8. Nailing those two turns should help me achieve my goals. If Vince and I have set up that rear sway bar correctly and I nail my alignment I'm hoping to surpass my initial target lap times goals.
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Old 06-06-2013, 07:35 AM
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One the bike I was only hitting about 135-138 on the front straight (thanks to 14/15), if memory does serve me well the end of the pit wall was the off the throttle marker, I tried to brake and downshift early to get the suspension settled and back on the throttle at turn in and somewhat aggressive on the throttle through the apex. I think the apex speed was "around" 85-95 mph hitting about 110-115 mph before T2

So my braking and throttle applications were slightly earlier than other turns.

T8 was a downshift and trailing throttle setting up for the apex with no brake since the V-twins I was riding have a reasonable amount of engine braking.

Don't know if that helps or is applicable for a car?

I know one thing for sure............I'd love to have four tires on the ground through T3! No trust of that corner whatsoever on a bike, especially with the deteriorating surface on the inside racing line. <Insert chicken sounds here>
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:13 AM
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That air box is looking good.
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Old 06-06-2013, 03:29 PM
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i'll get something up soon, had a parts delay on another project so it put me off a bit.

hey, we got his airbox to fit with the addition of the 2" spacer. Someone should help me find a lip seal that will work. edit....similar to this..
I like that air box! INMOHO I don't like the MSD boxes up on the firewall, To much heat and heat is what kills them
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Old 06-06-2013, 04:55 PM
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Almost there Gae!! When are we going to see that start up video??
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Old 06-06-2013, 04:58 PM
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When are we going to see that start up video??
We're not.
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I like that air box!
I found that interesting as well, how did that piece come into existence?
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Old 06-06-2013, 05:29 PM
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I found that interesting as well, how did that piece come into existence?
Didn't Vinnie make it??
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Old 06-06-2013, 05:32 PM
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I like that air box! INMOHO I don't like the MSD boxes up on the firewall, To much heat and heat is what kills them
Me neither Jer....it's on the list of things to do. I have the new 6AL box that MSD just came out with. It's a plug in deal and comes with extra wiring for longer runs. Eventually I will install it inside the car.

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We're not.
I promise I'll get you guys some vids. Between work, family, and the car things have been real busy. I'll be picking the car up this Saturday. Hoping to get the dyno vid at that time. I'll ask Vince to vid the fire up session before loading it in the trailor. Hell, if he'll let me I'll spin some brodies in the parking lot before she loads.

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I found that interesting as well, how did that piece come into existence?
The air box is carbon fiber and came with a lid. It's one of those deals you'd see on a K&N or ARCA series car. I've was using it with the lid but this time around we installed a 2" HVH carb spacer so the hood wouldn't close with the lid. A few modifications later we were able to still use the pan. Now we just need to find or get the box to hood sealer.
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Old 06-06-2013, 05:51 PM
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"I'll spin some brodies in the parking" YOU ARE OLD SCHOOL
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