Big problem with my power dyno numbers

[mazspeed]

Originally Posted by rich-allen

Oh dammit man!!! Don't give up on her yet. Obviously you have a lot of time and money into this project, hell just look at the website you built with all those pictures!

You probably can't sleep because you love that car and you want it to perform like you dreamed of it performing the entire time.. If your seriously at the point of throwing in the towel, put it on a trailer and send it to someone who can tune it properly. When it's finished have them send it back.

Rich

Hey Rich, thanks for the words, but I can no longer afford this car in the way it's going. It's going to cost a lot more money and time to fix and I just don't have it in me to continue. I just spent 15k for a rehab facility for my sister yesterday for her alcohol and drug problems, work is a little slow this summer with the housing market the way it is, and I just cannot continue to move foward with this nightmare any longer. CAR is going to want to charge me god knows what to fix this for something that should have been thought about before we went forward with this. I don't think the car is going to be reliable when it's done if it's ever done. And I don't think Ill ever get a chance to enjoy the car this year, I think it's just time to cut my losses. I don't know what else to do.

[Rob07002]

Mike, don't lose faith, your car is awsome!

We've all been ready to throw in the towel at least once. Take comfort in knowing you have lots of support here and real pro's like Tom willing to offer advice and time.

Take a mini-vacation from her and jump back in, in a few weeks.

I wish I knew more to help you, but I am blower-dumb.

[GT500KR_Vert]

Don't give up, getting these cars right or even finished is stressful and a PITA. I've been wokring on mine for 3 years. The hardest part is getting the guys who do work on it to do it right and actually put the time in to get it done.

Originally Posted by mazspeed

Hey Rich, thanks for the words, but I can no longer afford this car in the way it's going. It's going to cost a lot more money and time to fix and I just don't have it in me to continue. I just spent 15k for a rehab facility for my sister yesterday for her alcohol and drug problems, work is a little slow this summer with the housing market the way it is, and I just cannot continue to move foward with this nightmare any longer. CAR is going to want to charge me god knows what to fix this for something that should have been thought about before we went forward with this. I don't think the car is going to be reliable when it's done if it's ever done. And I don't think Ill ever get a chance to enjoy the car this year, I think it's just time to cut my losses. I don't know what else to do.

[3kidsnotime]

I havent been on in quite some time, I see anything on ATI (procharger) I feel I need to chine in... I hope you dont give up on the car stick it in the corner for a week and forget about it.. sometimes it needs to be done.
Your getting alot of great advice on this Tom has some greas input as well as Jody, I have literally sold and installed hundreads of these units more in the marine field but also in automotive as well and just about any internal combustion engine i could mess with. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=68611071 I have alot of pics on there you can look at. I also did some R&D for Dan Jones when he started the company for a number of years and its a great product you just need to cover some basics. All the input your getting is great I wont knock any just tell you some basics to fallow on a carb deal.
1 Boost read it after vacume.
2 Fuel boost reference before vacume make sure your at 1 extra pound fuel for every pound of boost.
3 Timing dont go too low you will hurt it worse. I like to lock out on 29 total I do not take timing out under 28 under psi your engine should be just fine.
4 Make sure your belt is tight VERY TIGHT Comon Problem!
5 Remember it takes power to turn your head unit low boost might only be making the added power to turn it hence almost equal from the begining so a slipping belt will just make it fall on its face at RPM
Those are some of the top problems we see your base engine is just fine for adding psi to it and they are very easy to tune most people over think it and miss the obvious.
I would go out crank the timing up make sure the belt is very tight and take it for a burn down the street Good Luck Jeff

[rich-allen]

If things are getting that scary, maybe you should put the car in the garage and cover it up for a month or two. It wont hurt you to store it until you come to a final decision.
Selling the car sounds easy but you will stir up an entirely different set a emotions and problems when you actually do it. There's not a lot of people with the cash to buy someones dream.

Last time I checked, a mans dream is worth quite a bit of money.


I hope everything works out for you,

Rich

[ProdigyCustoms]

Just a thought. With all the offers of help. Why not accept 353 or Jody's help and see if one of them could spend a day with you at the dyno. Taking it to Campbell, to adjust tiing is crazy. I know those are great guys, but you have a few serious ProCharger experts throwing advice your way.

I bet it is a hell of a lot less money to pay 353s fuel then one hour in a shop.

[Rybar]

Originally Posted by ProdigyCustoms

Just a thought. With all the offers of help. Why not accept 353 or Jody's help and see if one of them could spend a day with you at the dyno. Taking it to Campbell, to adjust tiing is crazy. I know those are great guys, but you have a few serious ProCharger experts throwing advice your way.

I bet it is a hell of a lot less money to pay 353s fuel then one hour in a shop.

I agree with Frank, ask for help from some friends and this board, you never know how much labor some beer and food can buy you. Good luck with the motor Mike, but don't give up so fast, you have an awesome car and were all supporting you and trying to help.

[69bird]

I don't live far away and in the san jose area for work all the time. I'm a hvac contractor I see your a electrical contractor. I would be willing to help you out anyway I can. I was ready to give up on my car too before or go to a ls1.Sometimes a new set of eyes on a problem is a good thing. I have a simlar setup on my firebird. I did go to efi because my carb was giving me a hard time. Heres a pic of my setup.

[V8TV]

I understand how you probably want to drive this thing off a cliff, but you'll probably be more upset if you sell it.

Perhaps the most aggravating thing is how you thought it was going to be right from the beginning, and now you have to go back and mess with it more! But unfortunately, that can be part of the game. Heck, it seems I have to do everything twice... at LEAST twice!

But the payoff is when it all comes together.

Don't overlook the basics, too. Triple check everything. I've personally seen a C5 Corvette with a Vortech pick up 65 HP (yes, 65!) just by letting it cool, changing to cheap NGK plugs over platinums, and adding a few degrees of timing.

Saw the same thing happen at a tune session with the SN65 Mustang. Temp, plugs, and timing added a big jump.

Seeing that this is all chassis dyno, how's the clutch?

You are getting some great advice from some real experts here - hang in there, and you'll be rewarded when you figure it out. And not to sound like a d***, but if you do have to sell it, you'll get more $ with a bigger dyno sheet!

- KO

[69bird]

Just wondering what kind of fuel system are you running?