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DDY RCKT · #61 11-24-2007, 03:38 PM

Well, that's the root of the argument, and the bet. Can I make an American Muscle car become a sports car for 12 grand? The M3 is a sports sedan, it's fast in the corners, but he can maybe hit 160 with a tail wind. But he's 500+/- lbs lighter than the Camaro. ~3200 vs ~3700. Doesn't seem like a big difference, but it's actually 16% heavier! Plus, it's ancient in terms of handling, and not weight balanced. There are a lot of things that I need to compensate for with an American muscle car. There's no way in hell his M3 would hang with a 6.0L Camaro in a Drag race. He knows this as well as I do. I'd destroy him in the straights with a 350 any day of the week. and he'll make up all that time in the corners, which is what we are trying to stop.

DDY RCKT · #62 11-24-2007, 03:40 PM

I brought the Big Block home today. I'm tempted to use it again. It's....imposing, to say the least.

deuce_454 · #63 11-24-2007, 04:06 PM

Imho, stick with the Ls engine... there are alot of things that get easier with that 6.0, clutch and flywheel are oem GM... and are cheap.. a 5-600 Hp clutch for a BBC costs real money.. i mean if you are going to race it anything less than a mcleod street twin or tilton for that BBC is waisting cash, a stock LS7 corvette clutch will get you home in first go... a bbc to t56 bellhousing is spendy! a Junkyard LS/t56 isnt.... heads for a BBC is upwards of 3 grand, for that money you can get L92 heads, a big cam, single plane intake, MSD ignition box and gaskets to perform the swap... throw in alittle extra and you can get an LQ9 longblock...

deuce_454 · #64 11-24-2007, 04:09 PM

but i sure understand where you are comming from with that BBC, its what am running in my 32 roadster... and just because it looks cool

DDY RCKT · #65 11-24-2007, 06:16 PM

I have the T56 and a McLeod street twin 1200 Hp holding clutch to go with it!

But I'm going with the LQ4 for the Camaro. I just need a new project for the Caddy Big Block at somet point! It's just too cool for words.

silver63c10 · #66 11-25-2007, 12:30 AM

Very cool project, always good to see a late 2nd gen getting built.

My dad and I are building a 79 with much the same goals, less emphasis on street manners, though. Like nearly everyone else, I would turn the BBC for some cash and go either LS or small block. We're going with an aluminum headed 377, and will be moving to a LQ4 after we find the breaking point with it.

A lot of progress can be made on a tight budget with the stock subframe, the suspension forum at www.nastyz28.com is a great resource for info.

I've got tons of pictures and all the specs for our build at http://www.acmeautopartsonline.com/camaro. Can't wait to see the progress on yours, and it tearing up some German meat!

DDY RCKT · #67 11-25-2007, 07:38 AM

I think it's awesome what you are doing! It looks pretty good to me!

Do you have the truck arms in yet?

silver63c10 · #68 11-25-2007, 04:06 PM

Yeah, all the suspension fab is done. We're working on getting the rest of the minor sheet metal work (trunk, dash, etc.) done, then it will be on to paint. Here's a shot of it all together..

It's about like stuffing 23 pounds of potatoes in a 5 pound sack. We'll find out how good of an idea doing all that work was eventually

deuce_454 · #69 11-26-2007, 02:19 AM

That truck arm setup really looks like the ticket! i doubt there is a cheaper full race solution for your car... it does however require a fair bit of cutting and welding....

DDY RCKT · #70 11-26-2007, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by deuce_454

That truck arm setup really looks like the ticket! i doubt there is a cheaper full race solution for your car... it does however require a fair bit of cutting and welding....

Hmm... The cutting and welding doesn't bother me. Hot Rods to Hell has a full truck arm setup available for the 2nd Gen, I think they come in at $1900 for everything.

You guys really like the truck arm for track duty, then? Even over a 4-link?