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Old 03-15-2006, 11:29 AM
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The other thing Tom didn't mention is that the engine will idle in gear at 700 rpm with 12-15 inches of vacuum. It makes all its power under 6,000 rpm. In the biggest pump-gas trim, it made more than 900 lb-ft from 3800 rpm all the way through 6000 rpm. In a lower tuneup for race gas, it made over 1,000 lb-ft from 3800-up.

Thing is, this is only a 406. Nelson regrets that we didn't just go 427, plus use his new intake and spread-exhaust-port heads. I think our 406 would go 1,550 hp with the right injectors. The 427 combo could be 1,650.

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The other thing Tom didn't mention is that the engine will idle in gear at 700 rpm with 12-15 inches of vacuum. It makes all its power under 6,000 rpm. In the biggest pump-gas trim, it made more than 900 lb-ft from 3800 rpm all the way through 6000 rpm. In a lower tuneup for race gas, it made over 1,000 lb-ft from 3800-up.

Thing is, this is only a 406. Nelson regrets that we didn't just go 427, plus use his new intake and spread-exhaust-port heads. I think our 406 would go 1,550 hp with the right injectors. The 427 combo could be 1,650.

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Thing is, this is only a 406. Nelson regrets that we didn't just go 427, plus use his new intake and spread-exhaust-port heads. I think our 406 would go 1,550 hp with the right injectors. The 427 combo could be 1,650.

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So tell us more about the car / rod that this is going into
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It's going in F-Bomb, an early 2nd Gen Camaro. There's a picture of it on page 35 of this month's issue of Hot Rod. I don't have it handy so I don't recall if the blurb mentions anything particular about the car.
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That is just incredible power, and a nicely assembled combination. God really is in the details.
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Old 03-15-2006, 05:48 PM
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The car is a '73 Camaro, and is not Pro Touring or G-Machine or whatever. Just a plain, truly drivable, legit street car and somewhat of a sleeper. We were going to go with a pure vintage Trans Am look (like, SCCA Trans Am, not Pontiac), but it was important to Nelson that it run 8s in the quarter, and a handling setup with a six-speed wasn't gonna do that well.

So, the look is stock. No cowl hood, no deck spoiler, no air dam, no stripes, and not even an RS package. It'll probably have steel wheels and column shift and stock seats. It will have power steering and brakes but no air. Trans likely a TH400 with a Gear Vendors, or perhaps a 4l80E. Dana 60 rear with 3.54:1. The suspension will be mostly stock and streetable--neither full-on handling nor full-on drag. Minitub with leaf and Caltracs bars, near-stock front end with swaybar, four-wheel discs that fit behind 15s.

Biggest problem is color. Tell me what to do! Options so far:
- Stock Rally Green with black interior
- Black with black interior
- Black with red interior
- Silver with red interior
- Hugger orange with black interior

Ideas?

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put one vote down for black/black, always been my fav. color combo. maybe even do the house of kolor flattening agent in the clear to give it that primer look.
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Nelson will love you for voting black. But would you want to take care of a black car every day?

A guy on hotrod.com just suggested sleeper beige.

BRG has also been suggested.
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Silver with red interior would be my first choice, followed up by hugger orange.

I love looking at black cars, but they aren't any fun to keep looking nice. Sorry Tom!

Oh yeah, and are you sure you don't want to run a 1 piece rear spoiler? I think they look great on those cars and are subtle.
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