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07-12-2006, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2
Dismissing it out of hand is as stupid as declaring it the best in the world.
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'Guess thats the end....
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New for summer '13. My latest find!!
48k miles, 100% original, 1969 Camaro coupe. Untouched, never apart and squeaky clean!!! 327/th350, A/C car. Gold on black w/vinyl top. Only add ons; Fast ratio box and SS396 wheels.
FINALLY!!! A car without rust repairs ever!!! None before, none coming!!! Cant come to modifying it tough....
...So, '67 Camaro project with my laying around stuff out of my black 'vert. 468 BB and YSI blower, braked th400, 12 bolt/spool, 35 splines etc. Complete Calvert suspension front and rear. 30x13.5 ET Streets, caged, lightened, slammed and running low 9's "Street car"
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07-12-2006, 09:52 AM
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Steve, the Rolex analogy was a good one.
Years of R&D went into this product and that doesn't happen for free.
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07-12-2006, 09:55 AM
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Ive gotta go work on my car......If I stay on here im never going to get off and going to get pissed....
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07-12-2006, 09:59 AM
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I could not agree more.
But at this point, if i understand correctly, all we have on this new product...ARE feelings.
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Just for the record.. my posts weren't directed at you..
Yea.. but FEELING like it's too expensive is one thing.. declaring that another subframe is "lighter" and "stronger" and has "better geometry" when that person has zero idea of the data is just lame. Just as lame as saying this frame is the best in the world based on "feelings"
Dig?
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07-12-2006, 10:00 AM
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Come on! Tell me why you NEED this part, what's it gonna change? Except you'll have the 'Latest' toy and less dough in your pockets.
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I don't need this part, but I want it, and here's my reason why -
I'm building a PT car.
And I'm building a PT car cuz I love the looks of the early camaro, firebird, nova, chevelle, cuda and others. But, with a stock front-end most of them handle like either a shopping cart or a tour bus.
I want the best of both worlds; the looks of a early muscle car and the handling of a modern day vette.
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07-12-2006, 10:02 AM
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Its ok to want the part just because its (sounds) hot. Just don't (did not read it from you) praise it before you know what it is...Or just because its from a dedicated company. Come on. I can,t understand that...Maybe i'm too poor...
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I praise it for what it is a this point.. a promising new product turned out by a company known for quality. I praise DSE for spending a boatload of $$$ trying to come out with a product "different" for the other ones on the market and for trying new innovative ideas.
I never said it was "better" or "worse" than any other aftermarket subframe because I have no idea if is.
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"A ship in port is safe, but that's not what ships are built for."
See Bad Penny run the cones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GUPPIX-92U
1971 Chevelle Wagon - Roadster Shop Chassis ProCharged Shafiroff LS and lots of yada yada
1968 Camaro - Project Track Rat - 440 RHS LS
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07-12-2006, 10:09 AM
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I praise it for what it is a this point.. a promising new product turned out by a company known for quality. I praise DSE for spending a boatload of $$$ trying to come out with a product "different" for the other ones on the market and for trying new innovative ideas.
I never said it was "better" or "worse" than any other aftermarket subframe because I have no idea if is. 
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Exactly why i wrote i did not read it from you
This is ending nicely... i think.
Ok now, how about we wait and see who gets one first!!!
Thanks to all for their comments. I had fun!
'gotta work too...
Lead.
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New for summer '13. My latest find!!
48k miles, 100% original, 1969 Camaro coupe. Untouched, never apart and squeaky clean!!! 327/th350, A/C car. Gold on black w/vinyl top. Only add ons; Fast ratio box and SS396 wheels.
FINALLY!!! A car without rust repairs ever!!! None before, none coming!!! Cant come to modifying it tough....
...So, '67 Camaro project with my laying around stuff out of my black 'vert. 468 BB and YSI blower, braked th400, 12 bolt/spool, 35 splines etc. Complete Calvert suspension front and rear. 30x13.5 ET Streets, caged, lightened, slammed and running low 9's "Street car"
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07-12-2006, 10:18 AM
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Kyle has had one on their test car for a while now and has put some miles on it, they actually drove it to Columbus also. His comments are very positive, he is very picky, if he likes it, it will definately work for me.
Yes he sells them but he would not if it was not good, final answer.
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07-12-2006, 11:04 AM
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Kyle has had one on their test car for a while now and has put some miles on it, they actually drove it to Columbus also. His comments are very positive, he is very picky, if he likes it, it will definately work for me.
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I was also at the Columbus GG and saw their test car. Don't know why but, I love that car.
I questioned Frank (DSE) on how good the fit was. He said they pulled the motor, supported the body and dropped the stock subframe then installed the new subframe. He said there was no need to remove any panels and very little alignment was needed.
When I talked to Kyle he said his goal was a stock look and true bolt in. Guess he achieved his goal.
Once I can afford it, I will buy one. Those of you who disagree with the price need to see it live. In my opinon, It's one the best aftermarket products available. You can tell a lot of thought went into the design.
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07-12-2006, 11:06 AM
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I agree......Once you see it in person your like WOW...
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