67 Camaro project "It Don't Fit" - Page 9 - Lateral-g Forums

makoshark · #81 08-02-2012, 07:51 AM

I fit the same description as you. I quit making deadlines because I never was able to meet them. However, this deadline 'must' be met.

My goal is to have the car sitting on the ground with all the suspension done, rearend setup, driveshaft ordered and installed, headers fit, trans lines made, brake lines fitted, brakes installed, steering installed, power steering lines made, ignition setup and installed, prewire the car, fuel lines installed AND motor fired. My goal is to basically have this a driving car within the next three weeks. That goal is really not a tall order if I can get through all these snags. I'm only doing mock up right now to get everything to fit before anything is painted/finished.

If I can meet my goal, then take it all back apart and prep the car for paint and paint it.

As far as people around here that have more experience to deal with the rearend, I already tried that route after deciding I was not able to get the yoke to slide down far enough. I dropped it all off to a guy I know that owns a speed shop. I get a call from him the next day telling me the yoke is a 10 bolt yoke. I never took any measurements from it, so I asked him, over the phone, to measure the seal area of the yoke. The measurement he got was for the 12 bolt rearend and not a 10 bolt, as the 10 bolt has a larger diameter yoke in the seal area. I spoke with Moser, today, and we decided I send the yoke back along with the pinion this time. I should have sent the pinion to them in the first place, but oh well. Hopefully they can get it taken care of the problem for me this time.

Another thing that does not fit...oil pressure sending unit

The sending unit that came with the VHX gauges is too fat. It hits the intake right at the block. I need to source an adapter that will lift the sender further off the block.

That is all I have tried to fit at this point. I need to get back out to the garage, but am worried something else may not fit

Roberts68 · #82 08-02-2012, 08:09 AM

Get the hell away from the keyboard and check in later tonight with a progress report.

makoshark · #83 08-02-2012, 09:10 AM

I spoke to the folks at Dynatech. They are going over my problem, along with my pictures, to see if they can find a solution. I certainly hope they can come up with something. I hate to not use their header as it is an extremely well made product. I'm definitely not giving up my DSE steering box.

Gotta go take the rearend apart and get the pinion and yoke shipped back to Moser. Looks like my day is pretty much done on the car for the moment.

**Spiffav8** · #84 08-02-2012, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by makoshark

I spoke to the folks at Dynatech. They are going over my problem, along with my pictures, to see if they can find a solution. I certainly hope they can come up with something. I hate to not use their header as it is an extremely well made product. I'm definitely not giving up my DSE steering box.

Gotta go take the rearend apart and get the pinion and yoke shipped back to Moser. Looks like my day is pretty much done on the car for the moment.

Man..that blows. I'll be watching to see what happens. Hopefully the turn around will be quick and you'll be back at it soon. Is Moser taking care of the pinion and yoke?

makoshark · #85 08-03-2012, 12:59 AM

I have some good news on the yoke. I was getting ready to package the yoke and pinion when the 2 together would not quite fit in the box. I had the yoke attached to the pinion, which was too long to fit in the box. To try to get the yoke a little further down, I pounded the yoke, while attached to the pinion, onto my work bench. As doing so, it was sliding down more than it would before. I grabbed a hammer and tapped the yoke back off the pinion and placed the pinion back into the rearend housing. I was able to get the yoke further down this time and enough to install it. So good news there, I will be able to setup my rearend and not have to send this yoke back to Moser.

That was the good news...

Here's the bad news...I do not see these headers fitting with the DSE box. These are suppose to be the redesigned headers made to fit the smaller boxes, but they don't. I received a call back from Dynatech, late yesterday, and was told the reason they are not fitting is my motor mounts I am using. I have to call BS on that. The motor mounts are not going to make any difference, whether I run the short ones or the tall ones. The pictures I posted here will show why. I am running original 302/350 stands with Prothane tall mounts. I get to deal with Dynatech some more tomorrow/later today. Only solution I see at this point is sending these back and finding a header that fits. I have to run 1 3/4" headers due to my heads having raised exhaust ports, even though the bolt pattern is in the standard location. If I were up to the challenge, I would build my own headers, but I don't have the time to deal with building a set.

makoshark · #86 08-03-2012, 02:33 AM

Are there any differences in size between DSE's 600 steering box compared to the Lee Manufacturing 670 box?

Roberts68 · #87 08-03-2012, 04:15 AM

You keep some odd hours friend.

Glad to hear the pinion and yoke are willing to play nice with you now.

I am confused about the headers. Why would they design a header to work with a smaller box? Wouldn't ones for a larger steering box (such as stock) clear? Or do they not offer the 1 3/4 primary to clear stock PS so the smaller box is their compromise?

makoshark · #88 08-03-2012, 04:22 AM

HAHA! There's reason to that. I have gone back to school working towards a new degree, so I'm stuck on my old schedule. I take naps is all anymore.

I can't answer any of that. I was just told these headers are the redesigned header to work around the 600 series box. I believe they will clear the stock style 800 series boxes as well. I'll inquire about that today.

I really hate to not use these headers. The build quality on these are extremely nice and the price couldn't be beat. My steering is more difficult to change than the exhaust, so the easier route will be the one to change, which in this case seems to be the headers. If the Lee box is dimensionally smaller than the DSE box, then I'll switch boxes. I haven't been able to confirm that yet, though.

Roberts68 · #89 08-03-2012, 04:32 AM

I'll be interested in the outcome on the headers.
I have an AGR box which I believe is dimensionally the stock box, so if that is an 800 I guess that's it. I know they offer it in an OE look without billet caps for the resto crowd.

How snug are they to the floor?.. or how much do they hang below the subframe?

makoshark · #90 08-03-2012, 04:41 AM

I'm almost certain these headers would fit an AGR box. I would dig out my stock box and see if it fits, but I'd have to degrease it and its not worth the time to go through that for me. The headers fit great otherwise. They don't hang down anymore than the subframe. They seem to have good clearance between the floor and header. I have not installed the passenger header as I know it will fit, but if the drivers header doesn't fit then no reason to install the passenger.

I'll snap some pics of how the fit around the floor and relation to the ground and post them up for you.