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[FETorino]

Originally Posted by bigt

I must have missed how the sifter leak got fixed. Can you go over that again?

Not sure what Sieg's ultimate solution was but

I spoke to American Powertrain at SEMA and they now make their own seal for the white lightning shifter to eliminate the problem.

[Roberts68]

Originally Posted by FETorino

Not sure what Sieg's ultimate solution was but

I spoke to Modern Driveline at SEMA and they now make their own seal for the white lightning shifter to eliminate the problem.

Good to know... since I didn't let Sieg disuade me from the White Lightning despite the troubles he had and all the in depth research and videos he did.

Maybe a silly question, but do both Modern Driveline and American Powertrain market the White Lightning? Who actually makes it? I bought mine from AP but to date it resides in a box for Someday.

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by Roberts68

Good to know... since I didn't let Sieg disuade me from the White Lightning despite the troubles he had and all the in depth research and videos he did.

Maybe a silly question, but do both Modern Driveline and American Powertrain market the White Lightning? Who actually makes it? I bought mine from AP but to date it resides in a box for Someday.

Brain fart on my part I meant American Powertrain. I've decided to use Bruce for my purchase so I had MD on the mind.

[Roberts68]

Originally Posted by FETorino

Brain fart on my part I meant American Powertrain. I've decided to use Bruce for my purchase so I had MD on the mind.

Ah, right on. It happens! Thanks for the clarification and the lead on the existence of a seal should I need one. They said they would stand behind the part, because I grilled them about Siegs issue and he and I were both talking to them at the time he was posting those vids.

Not really an official threadjack, you know how formal this thread has been
Quick, post a random picture of a dog, or better yet any picture of nice boobies and nobody will be any the wiser!

As you were.

[FETorino]

Originally Posted by Roberts68

Not really an official threadjack, you know how formal this thread has been
Quick, post a random picture of a dog, or better yet any picture of nice boobies and nobody will be any the wiser!

As you were.

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by bigt

I must have missed how the sifter leak got fixed. Can you go over that again?

Originally Posted by FETorino

Not sure what Sieg's ultimate solution was but

I spoke to Modern Driveline at SEMA and they now make their own seal for the white lightning shifter to eliminate the problem.

Originally Posted by Roberts68

Good to know... since I didn't let Sieg disuade me from the White Lightning despite the troubles he had and all the in depth research and videos he did.

Maybe a silly question, but do both Modern Driveline and American Powertrain market the White Lightning? Who actually makes it? I bought mine from AP but to date it resides in a box for Someday.

Short story - The Hurst Blackjack and the White Lightning shifters were designed by the engineers to be used in the rear mounting position. They must have over-looked the fact that if mounted in the forward position the shifter pivot is directly over the top of one of the larger gears in the case which slings a lot of fluid. In the rear position the Hurst shifter was fine (a little residual around the ball, the White Lightning leaked enough that fluid was on the cover and after probably 2K miles would leave drips on the ground.

Shift action on both was good, there was pro and con (very nit-picky) differences with both with shifter location, throw length, gate width, spring tension, feel, etc. Overall fit and finish of the Hurst piece was better.

I worked closely with Jim Goodlad at Hurst Drivelines submitting internal and external photo's, external video showing the leaking, I also made a plate with gauge to pressurized the case to show it wasn't building excess pressure. Thanks to the input from others and myself Hurst took action and has re-engineered the shifter to incorporate a seal. It's not a fast process but the new shifters should be ready the first of February.

Regarding the White Lightning shifter I was told on the phone by two American Powertrain key people that they personally designed the shifter and there was no was it would leak like the "inferior" Hurst shifter. Identical situation and tests.......the White Lightning leaked twice the amount. Their resolution was poor communication (ignoring) and finally sending me a used Tremec shifter with their adjustable shifter pivot for my $300 investment and inconvenience. Not surprised since American was started by ex-Keisler employees. FWIW - I had ordered and paid a deposit on the Keisler RS600 but it started smelling fishy and canceled.

Hurst on the other hand has went above and beyond the call of fair customer service, they've exceeded expectation and then some.

[preston]

Good for Hurst.

I also was not overly impressed with Keisler's operation when I did some inquiries with them.

[intocarss]

Originally Posted by FETorino

Now we're getting somewhere

[Roberts68]

Originally Posted by FETorino

Those puppies look like the ferocious kind that require lots of attention.

[Sieg]

OK, back to nipples, crap! I meant electrical.

Originally Posted by GregWeld

You'll need to check voltage drop --- AND resistance (Ohms). High resistance would lead me to check connections for corrosion... tight secured terminals... etc. Then if that all looked good then I'd be yarding the starter for a load test on it.

Now --- you may also have an issue at the ignition switch / wiring to it/to starter. So after you've cranked it 3 times or so --- I'd be feeling for heat in any of the wires out of that switch. Just gently put your hand around the bundle and see if there's a hot one... 'Cause the switch could be breaking down --- or a corrosion issue or connector that's loose etc. Might carry the load once -- then heat up and go apoplectic.

Actually had weather that allowed a test drive. Checked the battery voltage after it was off the tender for an hour and had 13.17v, then went on a 20 minute drive with minimal stops only running the heater on low and no other lights or accessories. Shut it down and it restarted with no noticeable starter laboring. Checked the voltage again and it was 13.07.