Ford 427 SideOilers, What are the worth?

[Beach Cruiser]

My friend recently passed away and his wife is selling his boat. We've always said that the engines were worth more than the boat, but we don't have a clue. It's a 1967 Cris Craft cabin cruiser and it has two original '67 427 Fords in it They are Marinized engines, but they could very easily be rebuilt for automotive duty. Any clue on thier Value?

[JamesJ]

The boat may be worth more than you think...

[MaxHarvard]

This guy seems to want $15,000 for the entire boat... might be worth selling as a whole.

http://www.boat-world.com/boatads/1155044026.html

[JamesJ]

http://www.mahoganybay.net/

call and ask for todd, nice guy and is a buyer depending on price and shape.... tell him Jim Jard sent you...

[ArisESQ]

Originally Posted by MaxHarvard

This guy seems to want $15,000 for the entire boat... might be worth selling as a whole.

http://www.boat-world.com/boatads/1155044026.html

the one posted has two chevy 305's, not the 427 ford motors in his... which could potentially mean that SOMEONE is willing to pay a substantial amount of money for that boat.

[Beach Cruiser]

Thanks Guys! The boat is 43' and it was pretty nice, but since he got sick it has been in decay for a while. It's still pretty salvagable but it's a lot of work. If there is no "collector value" in the engines then there is no need to part the boat out. They are under the sofa in the main cabin and would be hard to get at to pull. She only wants 6K for the boat and it can be driven and runs great, but there is a lot of wood work to do to it to make it nice again. I would love to have it but I have two teenagers and way too many projects already, plus my own boat.

[rwhite692]

The Starboard engine may be a reverse rotation and therefore not usable for a car... So you might want to check.

[FETorino]

http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182/

The whole site is devoted to FE motors. I'm not that familiar with Marine engine specs other than one may be reverse rotation. Now several companies, Shelby, Pond and Genesis make aftermarket 427 blocks but they range from $3 to 5k. Good usable 427 blocks are worth some $$ by themselves. If they are sideoilers then the blocks could be worth $3k each.

[phonedude_mln]

Originally Posted by rwhite692

The Starboard engine may be a reverse rotation and therefore not usable for a car... So you might want to check.

as FETorino says below, go to http://www.fordfe.com/ -- this has been
covered before several times. and since companies like Scat are making
reasonably priced stroker kits (4.25"), no reason to not go big.

it is my understanding that those engines might be "top-oilers" (aka
"center-oilers"), even if cast as side oilers. marine and industrial
engines were a mixed bag. although side oilers are the most popular,
conventional wisdom says for street use the center oilers are just as
good for street use.

[edit]
I had a section guessing at the value, but then I went and searched
at fordfe.com. apparently it all hinges on the cooling system used:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182/thread/973298699/

http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182/thread/1035140961/

http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182/thread/1057007104/

http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182/thread/1058101239/

http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182/thread/1035140961/

[rwhite692]

Originally Posted by phonedude_mln

as FETorino says below, go to http://www.fordfe.com/ -- this has been
covered before several times. and since companies like Scat are making
reasonably priced stroker kits (4.25"), no reason to not go big...

Yes, of course the rotation can be changed to std.... Just wanted to point out the reverse rotation issue, in case someone was not aware, and thinking of using it as-is. And hopefully the engine has only seen a closed cooling system (FWC) if not, good luck!