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Old 09-01-2005, 07:39 AM
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Question Susp/Steering/Brake Upgrade??

Well, after finally deciding the best route (I hope) for my car and keeping my wife happy, I have decided on which components and wanted your guys suggestions and/or recommendations.

I have a daily driver 68 Camaro with a mild 4-bolt/ARP-studded 355 with hypereutechtic pistons, Edelbrock 650 Vac. secondary, Edelbrock EPS intake, bowl-ported 1.94 heads, 268HE cam, MSD Pro-Billet Dist., MSD 6+ Digital ignition, MAD New System, and headers. TH350 with B&M Torkmaster 2000. Baer Serious Street are on thier way. As evidence as a member here, I love the corners and intend to enjoy driving as much as possible. Maybe some racing one day, but mostly hard driving, legally.

Here is what I have planned:

QA1 coilovers

from DSE: Upper control arms, LCA bushings, body mounts and SS hardware, tie rod adjusters, PS pump, hose, cooler, and bracket; Rear leaf kit with 2" drop

3rd Gen IROC Box, Competition Engineering SF Connectors (Bolt-On), and all new Moog misc steering/suspension pieces.

Rear brakes from Praise Dyno? Other options?(besides discs)

What do you guys think? Feasible? I would have done the DSE Speed kit 3, but budget would not allow with everything else going on. And I was thinking the Hotchkis hollow front sway bar, but very open to any recommendations. I searched previous posts and just wanted your guys seal of approval, and to point out any discrepancies.

Thanks for your time,
Brad
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Old 09-01-2005, 08:04 AM
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Welcome to the board, Brad.

Looks like you've chosen a good combination of parts. If you can't do the DSE coilover kit with relocated uca mounting points, then the only thing that I'd add is the Guldstrand mod.
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Old 09-01-2005, 08:24 AM
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Thanks, awesome site. Probably not good for the savings account!

Is it recommended to perform the Guldstrand mod with DSE UCA's? Thanks for the prompt response.

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Old 09-01-2005, 08:31 AM
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Thanks, awesome site. Probably not good for the savings account!

Is it recommended to perform the Guldstrand mod with DSE UCA's? Thanks for the prompt response?
I don't think so. The DSE arms already have that built into them, plus offer additional bushings to change the caster even more.

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Old 09-01-2005, 08:57 AM
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I thought I had read that somewhere. I can't say enough about the blue 69 SS on your site. That's very close to where I'd like my car someday. Thanks Jody.

Brad

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Old 09-07-2005, 02:09 AM
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Default DSE UCA and Guldstrand mod

According to DSE's site, and I quote

"I used the Dick Guldstrand template to relocate my upper control arms in my first generation Camaro. I drilled new holes and cut away the old holes. Will your upper control arms work with this setup?

"Yes, you can use our tubular upper control arms with the Guldstrand relocated points. Our tubular upper control arms will work in the stock mounting location, or with re-located upper control points."

So, I am contemplating the UCA Relocation with the DSE UCA's.
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I don't think so. The DSE arms already have that built into them, plus offer additional bushings to change the caster even more.

Jody
Jody, it's physically impossible for the control arms themselves to have any impact on the camber curve, one of two points needs to move; either the ball joint location or the pivot location.

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Here is what I have planned:
QA1 coilovers
from DSE: Upper control arms, LCA bushings, body mounts and SS hardware, tie rod adjusters, PS pump, hose, cooler, and bracket; Rear leaf kit with 2" drop
3rd Gen IROC Box, Competition Engineering SF Connectors (Bolt-On), and all new Moog misc steering/suspension pieces.
Rear brakes from Praise Dyno? Other options?(besides discs)
The only thing I'd suggest different is maybe looking at NAPA vs. Moog for your chassis components. The NAPA pieces are far superior to Moog.
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I thought NAPA just used Moog parts anyway? When I got my springs there they came in a box that said Moog, but maybe that's different.
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Jody, it's physically impossible for the control arms themselves to have any impact on the camber curve, one of two points needs to move; either the ball joint location or the pivot location.

The only thing I'd suggest different is maybe looking at NAPA vs. Moog for your chassis components. The NAPA pieces are far superior to Moog.
I said caster not camber.

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Dakota Digital for their Chevelle HDX Gauge Package
Painless Performance for their wiring harness

Ron Davis Radiators for their radiator and fan assembly.
Baer Brakes for their front and rear brakes

Texas Speed and Performance for their 427 LS Stroker
American Powertrain for their ProFit Magnum T56 kit
Currie Enterprises for their 9" Third Member
Forgeline for their GF3 Wheels
McLeod Racing for their RXT street twin clutch
Ididit for their steering column
Holley for their EFI and engine parts
Lokar and Clayton Machine for their pedals and door and window handles
Morris Classic Concepts for their 3 point belts and side mirrors
Thermotec for their heat sleeve and sound deadening products
Restomod Air for their Tru Mod A/C kit
Mightymouse Solutions for their catch can
Magnaflow for their 3" exhaust system
Aeromotive for their dual Phantom fuel system
Vintage Air for their new Mid Mount LS front drive
Hydratech Braking for their hydroboost system
Borgeson for their stainless steering shaft and u joints
Eddie Motorsports for their hood and trunk hinges and misc parts
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I said caster not camber.

Jody
Yeah, I saw that but the "G" mod is more geared toward camber gain so that is how I read the question and the responses.
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