Need Advice...

[Jay Hilliard]

Hey guys,

I am contemplating whether to sell my 69 camaro to buy a Corvette Z06. If Im having major brain issues here, let me know. I am not sure what the price I should ask for, especially in this economy.

The paint is about 15 years old as I have had the car almost 10 and the previous owner had it painted 5 years before. There is only 1 bit of rust that I have seen and I have had the floorboard and trunk stripped down to bare metal. The small rust is on driver door down on lower side near front fender and I am fixing it whether I sell it or not.

The car is an original matching numbers SS. I have the original engine that will go of course with the car. The T350 goes as well, but have not checked those numbers. The car was an originial auto with T350.

Here are the mods etc I have done to the car. ~2500 miles on motor and trans. I have to look at odometer to get exact number.

Paint: Hugger Orange (originally Olympic Gold)
Wheels: Vintage Wheel Works 17x8x4.75” front – 17x9.5x5.5” rear
Tires: 245/40/17 front – 275/45/17 rear
Engine: Professionally built 355 cubic inch small block – 475 HP @6400
Will provide all engine component details to potential buyer
Transmission: Tremec TKO-600 5-speed
Rear Differential: GM 12 bolt positive traction w/ 3.73 gear ratio
Brakes: Baer track system in front (13” cross-drilled/Zinc washed rotors), touring system in rear (12” cross-drilled/Zinc washed rotors) with Hydratech’s hydraulic brake booster
Shocks:
• Front: Koni adjustable coil-over designed by DSE
• Rear: Adjustable conventional style


Suspension Modifications

Subframe converted to coil-over front suspension using the (DSE) Detroit Speed & Engineering coil-over conversion kit
DSE tubular upper control arms
DSE subframe connectors
AGR custom valved 12:1 power steering box
DSE tubular tie-rod sleeves
1 1/8” sway bar
DSE steel sleeves with Delrin bushings in lower control arms
DSE aluminum solid body mounts w/ stainless bolts
Hotchkis 2” drop multi-leaf springs in rear with additional ¾” aluminum lowering blocks
Ididit tilt steering column w/Borgeson joint
Tom’s Differential Axles

Interior Modifications

DSE steel custom dash - Autometer gauges with LED bulbs and ignition moved to dash
DSE hoop bar with removable cross bar
Custom made aluminum pedal covers
Corbeau TRS seats w/ 3” racing harnesses
Stock backseat re-covered to match front Corbeau seats with Corbeau 2” factory latch style seatbelts in rear
Dynamat Xtreme insulation installed throughout car to reduce road noise
& vibrations
Sparco removable steering wheel (horn still works)
CV Products aluminum shifter stick and ball
Anvil Arms Carbon Fiber Satin A-Pillar moldings
New carpet, doorpanels, window cranks, dashpad, rearview mirror, dome light




Other Modifications

DSE Firewall Fill Platel installed.
Car rewired with Painless Wiring 18 circuit harness and GM weatherpack connectors used for easy disconnects
Vintage Air Front-Runner serpentine pulley system

DSE aluminum hood hinges
DSE Billet Hood Latch Pin and Spring Collar
DSE aluminum close-out panel
DSE power steering pump & reservoir
Be Cool 4-core aluminum radiator w/ Spal electric fan
DSE selecta-speed wiper
DSE modern headlight kit
DSE aluminum trunk battery mount w/ Optima battery
Flowmaster 2 ½” H-pipe exhaust system connected to 1 5/8” Hooker Super Comps w/ceramic coating
Marquez Design components
o aluminum marker plates, tail light markers, cubic inch numbers, aluminum door jamb vents, stainless hood adjusters, and stainless door strikers


Included with Car

Wilwood 1 1/8” Black Powder Coated Aluminum MC (new in box)
Prodigy Customs compete stainless bolt kit (new in box)
Original SS Hood
Original 69 seats
1970-81 2nd Gen Camaro bullet mirrors
DSE powder coated Compac bracket for Vintage Air Gen II system (new in box)
Turbo 350 transmission

Thanks guys....I willl post pics asap.

[ZMAN1969]

Jay thats a tough one, seems like after all that updating your bored with it. do you have to sell to afford the Z06 and just want a new toy? I have had and sold a 69 sb pace car, 6cyl conv, r/s z28,70ss, 70r/s and REGRET every day having sold them. Now I still have a daytona yellow R/S Z/28 and have been offered and declined selling it as I know I'd never own another one. now on the other hand I'd love a new Z06(who wouldnt?) maybe its time to move on, maybe not, the 69 is a classic and the Z06s are piling up on dealers lots, be careful hard to get over the regret of selling the old one -ask me how I know

[OLDFLM]

From a novice's point of view...

How many Corvettes do you see weekly?

How many Camaros done to the level of yours do you see?

I'd love to have a C6 or even a C5 Z06 for a daily driver! Don't get me wrong...
But I see at least 6 Corvettes every day during my commute.

All depends on what you want and your intended use of that vehicle...

Ultimately, only you can make that decision my friend.

V/R,
Ty

[GM Muscle]

just because your tired of your old lady doesnt mean you should trade her off for a new blonde! obviously, after owning it for 10 years and doing all that youve done to it, you have some sort of love for the car... i think you need to take a step back and think of all that youve been trough with it. ultimately i think you will regret selling your pride and joy. if the car is paid off and paid for i would just start checking my budget and see if i could just afford to buy a vette. then you could have the best of both worlds... i mean, you cant even grab groceries with a vette..

[speedjohnston]

Actually you can get a ton of groceries in a c5 or c6 vette, the trunk is huge. I have a 72 camaro and a c6 vette, each one has its purpose and it would depend on what driving you want to do and how it makes you feel. Sometimes change is good, as long as it isn't followed by regret.

[jay web]

WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!? - you gettin a vette? I think you will miss the 69 (ask me how I know). I would love to have a Z06, but you know how hard good 69's are to come by these days. Either way, I want a ride sometime, and to come see that shop you built. I've got to get out more - when did you build it?

[Jay Hilliard]

Hey man. I have decided to keep my 69 and finish it the way I want. I built my shop in Jan 08. Its 40x50. Come up. I had tried calling you but your cell number I have doesnt work.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Jay Hilliard

Hey man. I have decided to keep my 69 and finish it the way I want. I built my shop in Jan 08. Its 40x50. Come up. I had tried calling you but your cell number I have doesnt work.

GOOD MAN!! We all knew you'd come to the right decision!

Why would you build that shop -- only to sell the one car you can work on and make improvements...

There's very little you can really do to a Corvette... big whoop... and NOBODY talks to you when you get gas -- or gives you the thumbs up when driving a 'Vette! Now that Camaro on the other hand -- that attracts attention -- starts conversations -- etc. To me... the whole car deal is all about the PEOPLE I meet and the conversations I have because of the 'old cars' -- rather than just driving a car.

[Jay Hilliard]

You are so right Greg. Talking to people is part of having old cars.

[almcbri]

Glad to hear you are going to keep it!

I pass a couple Z06's everyday and rarely do I pass a old car and a first gen at that. It is pretty cool to have something not everyone has. Keep us updated on the progress