Keith Black Pistons - Lateral-g Forums

ROKN69 · #1 08-25-2010, 08:01 PM

Hi All,

Last Friday I experienced a failure of a Keith Black piston. I was told when I ordered it that it would handle up to 800 HP, including mild Nitrous use. I have only been running 91 octane pump gas with no power adders. My engine makes around 600-625 HP. I was on a 1/4 mile pass at Sacramento Raceway last Friday when I heard a POP at around 7200 RPM. I thought the carb backfired so I let out of it, shifted to 3rd, and about a second later I touched the brakes to slow down. The engine was running but making a few rattling noises. I pulled off the track and shut it down.

Long story short, I took the engine apart and the attached image is what I found.

I called KB and was told that they don't make this piston anymore because of breakage issues, but they won't do anything for me, either. I'm a little miffed. I was about to run a mild shot of Nitrous on this motor in one more week. If I had, I expect my engine would have blown up as all 8 pistons would have failed at once.

Today I ordered a set of Wiseco pistons built for mild Nitrous use, and was told they will handle up to 900 HP. The most I ever expect to run is around 850-875 HP (a 250 shot of N2O). Hopefully these new pistons will work. I hate not knowing for sure, especially considering I was told wrong once before.

The new Wiseco's are part # PT025H3. Does anyone have any experience with these? They are for a 383 CID small block chevy. 4.030 bore, 5.7 inch rod with a 3.75 stroke.

Any advice / help is appreciated.

OLDFLM · #2 08-26-2010, 05:25 AM

That sucks!!! I have them in my 440 Pontiac combo too!

burntnova · #3 08-26-2010, 09:43 AM

I had the same issue with my Keith Black's after 4 month of use and they told me the same thing, nothing they could do for me. So I ended up buying Wiseco as well. I've been satified with their pistons over a year with no issues.

6OHNOVA · #4 08-26-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ROKN69

Hi All,

Last Friday I experienced a failure of a Keith Black piston. I was told when I ordered it that it would handle up to 800 HP, including mild Nitrous use. I have only been running 91 octane pump gas with no power adders. My engine makes around 600-625 HP. I was on a 1/4 mile pass at Sacramento Raceway last Friday when I heard a POP at around 7200 RPM. I thought the carb backfired so I let out of it, shifted to 3rd, and about a second later I touched the brakes to slow down. The engine was running but making a few rattling noises. I pulled off the track and shut it down.

Long story short, I took the engine apart and the attached image is what I found.

I called KB and was told that they don't make this piston anymore because of breakage issues, but they won't do anything for me, either. I'm a little miffed. I was about to run a mild shot of Nitrous on this motor in one more week. If I had, I expect my engine would have blown up as all 8 pistons would have failed at once.

Today I ordered a set of Wiseco pistons built for mild Nitrous use, and was told they will handle up to 900 HP. The most I ever expect to run is around 850-875 HP (a 250 shot of N2O). Hopefully these new pistons will work. I hate not knowing for sure, especially considering I was told wrong once before.

The new Wiseco's are part # PT025H3. Does anyone have any experience with these? They are for a 383 CID small block chevy. 4.030 bore, 5.7 inch rod with a 3.75 stroke.

Any advice / help is appreciated.

Make the switch to a Wiseco and do not ever look back, I had a 2004 GTO with a set of Wiseco's in it. I sprayed the crap out of it, 2 stages on nitrous on several occasions, an never had an issue.

ROKN69 · #5 08-26-2010, 04:13 PM

Awesome - it's good to hear that I may have made a sound purchase decision. Thank you for your input, guys.

Joel145 · #6 08-28-2010, 06:31 AM

I ran Wisecos in my old SRT4 (yes I owned a Neon) with a 23psi of boost daily driven with no issues. Here is how good they look after 7 months of abuse ( these were just washed down with soapy water).

I rebuilt the engine because of a spun bearing.

Tiger · #7 08-28-2010, 08:29 AM

Wiseco was THE name for 125cc two stroke motorbikes when I used to run them many years back. (I actually still have a couple non running bikes but thats another story).

ciao