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Old 12-11-2005, 07:03 AM
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looking for everybodys opinions on martz front chassis set up i have been hearing that it flexes alot. what do you guys think ???????????? any input on other chassis would be great.
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Old 12-11-2005, 08:02 AM
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You know, Wayne Due has a couple setups in that price range or less that work very well. One uses Morrison a-arms, rack, etc. for about $4500 with Wilwood brakes, $4K or so without brakes. He also has a new one that's a replacement for the stock 67-69 stock subframe; uses stock or aftermarket a-arms, DSE coil overs, steering rack, and allows 275's and 10" wheels up front. This one is ideal for a guy who's already got money invested in DSE or Hotchkis a-arms, etc. but would like to run big wheels/tires up front and get a steering rack at the same time. He sells that frame with new rack for about $1700. Then you'd need a-arms and coil-overs (uses the same ones that DSE uses).


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Nea, been there, done that, didn't like it, mustang 2 crap, to flexable. Waynes stuff is killer, and a nice guy too. Much more then can be said about Martz.
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both are good . i have martz in the ft and rear of my camaro . martz chassis has been doing this for 35 yrs . he does a good job , good to work with .
wayne an i have talked . he is going to do my 69 camaro.


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Any more info available for the replacement wayne due frame???

sounds like a deal to me...
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Brian, go straight to the source and ask Wayne. His phone number is 360-657-4810. Be sure to tell him we sent you.

I have a Wayne Due subframe waiting to go in my car. It's a REALLY nice piece.
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You know, Wayne Due has a couple setups in that price range or less that work very well. One uses Morrison a-arms, rack, etc. for about $4500 with Wilwood brakes, $4K or so without brakes. He also has a new one that's a replacement for the stock 67-69 stock subframe; uses stock or aftermarket a-arms, DSE coil overs, steering rack, and allows 275's and 10" wheels up front. This one is ideal for a guy who's already got money invested in DSE or Hotchkis a-arms, etc. but would like to run big wheels/tires up front and get a steering rack at the same time. He sells that frame with new rack for about $1700. Then you'd need a-arms and coil-overs (uses the same ones that DSE uses).


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I spoke with Wayne yesterday and he said that the bare frame and front steer rack will be about $2500. He said to get the rack to work he needs a bunch of expensive parts... the rack itself will be close to $1000. You can use QA1's (or anything you want). The QA1's are about $200 cheaper than the DSE Koni's. It also includes a Speedway Engineering swaybar because he says that this swaybar is the only way to clear the front steer rack.

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Jody, will Waynes other sub frame that uses the stock stuff wotk with GW upper and lower control arms as well as their coilover kit? I have a GW coil overs (QA-1) and their upper and lower comntrol arms with Baer brakes. I also have a Unisteer that probably wont work though?
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Jody, will Waynes other sub frame that uses the stock stuff wotk with GW upper and lower control arms as well as their coilover kit? I have a GW coil overs (QA-1) and their upper and lower comntrol arms with Baer brakes. I also have a Unisteer that probably wont work though?
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Need to call him Mike. The control arms would work but it comes with a dedicated rack. Also the mounts are setup for DSE style coil-overs but any of that length and top/bottom config would work.

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I talked to Wayne today, the new subframe is getting very close to being ready to go market. He's hammering out the fine details (like sourcing some of the suspension parts, etc). We should know a lot more soon... but we also have the Christmas and New Year's to contend with in the next few weeks.

I think Wayne has a REAL winner on his hands. Combining his excellent craftsmanship with the fact that the new frame will except existing brake and wheel packages that most of us are already using, he will sell a lot of them.
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