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Old 08-22-2008, 05:52 PM
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From my personal experience, unless you're going forced induction, many of the sheetmetal intakes turn a smooth & hard running LSX into more of a peaky, old scool SBC feel. I have had several guys run them, & go back to a FAST 90 or equivalent.
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From my personal experience, unless you're going forced induction, many of the sheetmetal intakes turn a smooth & hard running LSX into more of a peaky, old scool SBC feel. I have had several guys run them, & go back to a FAST 90 or equivalent.

that is true, but I'm still thinking with that extended runner length of the PMC design that it will give a very broad power range and very good low to mid range torque. It sure does with an IR setup, and that's pretty much what this is, with a plenum over the top.

I of course have no facts to back this up; this just comes from running an IR setup and the changes it made over a single 4 barrel throttle body and single plane intake, and looking at the design of my PMC intake, just my personal opinion. I'd love to see someone do some back to back engine dynoing of stock vs the PMC.



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i would love to see the kinsler cross-ram IR setup in that test.... and possibly a fast92 and OEM l92 intake....
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i would love to see the kinsler cross-ram IR setup in that test.... and possibly a fast92 and OEM l92 intake....
I assume you were talking about this one.

http://www.kinsler.com/NewProducts/P..._CarbonWeb.jpg

I like it. Anyone have any idea on pricing? I am willing to give up a little power for some wow factor when you open the hood, so I don't need the on that makes the most HP. How about driveability? What ECU would you use?

Also, some say a MAF system is better than speed density. Opinions?
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I assume you were talking about this one.

http://www.kinsler.com/NewProducts/P..._CarbonWeb.jpg

I like it. Anyone have any idea on pricing? I am willing to give up a little power for some wow factor when you open the hood, so I don't need the on that makes the most HP. How about driveability? What ECU would you use?

Also, some say a MAF system is better than speed density. Opinions?
It's around $6k. Kurt is building a 69 Camaro right now with the Kinsler intake on an LS7. The car is almost identical to mine, (same cam, trans, rear, etc). It will be chassis dyno'd at the same shop that did mine, so it's going to be interesting to see what kind of numbers it makes.

There's a bunch of pics here:

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Wilson also makes sheet metal intakes. If doing a comparison, you might want to check them out too.

Also, if you want one of the coolest intakes around, look at a Harrop. They're a company from Australia and their intake has 8 individual throttle bodies and is just SICK.........but be sitting down when you price them!

Harrop Hurricane............

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id like to hear about the drivability and idle of the IR manifolds aswell... and if somone could post a dyno clip with sound ;-)
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Wilson also makes sheet metal intakes. If doing a comparison, you might want to check them out too.

Also, if you want one of the coolest intakes around, look at a Harrop. They're a company from Australia and their intake has 8 individual throttle bodies and is just SICK.........but be sitting down when you price them!

Harrop Hurricane............

Good Luck! It sounds like a Cool Project!
Yeah , we did that on Fuel back in 05 .ACTUALLY CHEAP COMPAIRED TO SOME OF THE OTHER INTAKES OUT. Worked great and provide much more power than a standard LS style intake

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From my personal experience, unless you're going forced induction, many of the sheetmetal intakes turn a smooth & hard running LSX into more of a peaky, old scool SBC feel. I have had several guys run them, & go back to a FAST 90 or equivalent.
I remember someone tested sheetmetal "ultimate LS7 intake" in LS1tech and low and mid range power ( where all of us do the 99% of driving..) was less than factory stock. As 1955LSX said there is not more to gain than killer looks.
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