When does a 69 Camaro cease to be a 69 camaro??

[tyoneal]

Originally Posted by nvr2fst

X2 although I dont have a problem with exaggerating certain body lines but from a close distance it still needs to look like a camaro. When Razor first came out you needed to really look at what they did (outside of the typical deck lid stuff and hood mods going on today) They widened the quarters, enhanced all the body line creases including adding a couple here and there and the way a car gets painted can also enhance the true camaro lines. Another example would be the G force Cuda, every piece was modified but in the end it still looked like a cuda representing its heritage. Over the next couple of years I feel that this is going to be the next phase of building custom cars. When you start getting into the body modifications that are typically "non removal" you need to take in consideration the cost. It becomes at times overwhelming and if your the guinea pig for that "new got to have it look" mod to go into production like CF fenders, quarters, etc. in the long run the following consumers will get it at a lower cost. The more custom parts parts go into production the more the custom builders need to go out of the box to the point the car IMO may become hideous. Ive been dealing with this on my car since its been at Ironworks from day one. I havent had any bad feedback on the mods yet..... but if there our opinions I would love to hear them.

Ty I returned your PM

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I looked for a PM, and didn't find anything. Any Ideas??

[deuce_454]

Im my oppinion it stops being a camaro when someone can say.. i built the frame for that thing.... i mean a schwartz full chassis camaro.. is a schwartz 2009 with a vintage camaro body on it...

so for me it looses its identity when major parts of the engineering gets replaced... things like the floor pan, subframe and bodylines need to be original...

widened fenders, minitubs etc is fine as ling as its modified camaro pieces, piecutting, sectioning, chopped roof or whatever kustomcar trick is played will IMHO change it from being a camaro.. to bearing the name of whoever built it...

[deuce_454]

another thing.... Some asswipe walked up to me a while back and said my malibu didnt qualify as pro touring but was a joe-touring car....

now ive sunk big money in it.. it has full aftermarket suspension, global west LCA, SC&C UCA. GW springs, double adj Varishocks, delalums, 1-5/8 GW sway bar.. boxed frame, solid body mounts, Currie curectrac rear controll arms, Fays 2 watts link, moser rear bear 12 inch rear brakes, ATS spindles, 13 inch Touring classics front brakes, hydra-boost, Heads, intake and Cam LS1 engine.. twistmashine paddleshifter, full leather interior, recaro seats and forgeline 18 inch wheels, two tone paint, adjustable spoiler, front splitter....but being a 79 malibu somhow disqualified it as being a Pro Touring car...


so can someone please tell me what ive built then if it isnt pro touring.... do is really need to be a 1. gen f-body????? WTF!

[XcYZ]

Originally Posted by deuce_454

another thing.... Some asswipe walked up to me a while back and said my malibu didnt qualify as pro touring but was a joe-touring car....

now ive sunk big money in it.. it has full aftermarket suspension, global west LCA, SC&C UCA. GW springs, double adj Varishocks, delalums, 1-5/8 GW sway bar.. boxed frame, solid body mounts, Currie curectrac rear controll arms, Fays 2 watts link, moser rear bear 12 inch rear brakes, ATS spindles, 13 inch Touring classics front brakes, hydra-boost, Heads, intake and Cam LS1 engine.. twistmashine paddleshifter, full leather interior, recaro seats and forgeline 18 inch wheels, two tone paint, adjustable spoiler, front splitter....but being a 79 malibu somhow disqualified it as being a Pro Touring car...

so can someone please tell me what ive built then if it isnt pro touring.... do is really need to be a 1. gen f-body????? WTF!

Seriously? I would take that as someone who's jealous of what you've built.

[chr2002ca]

Originally Posted by deuce_454

another thing.... Some asswipe walked up to me a while back and said my malibu didnt qualify as pro touring but was a joe-touring car....

now ive sunk big money in it.. it has full aftermarket suspension, global west LCA, SC&C UCA. GW springs, double adj Varishocks, delalums, 1-5/8 GW sway bar.. boxed frame, solid body mounts, Currie curectrac rear controll arms, Fays 2 watts link, moser rear bear 12 inch rear brakes, ATS spindles, 13 inch Touring classics front brakes, hydra-boost, Heads, intake and Cam LS1 engine.. twistmashine paddleshifter, full leather interior, recaro seats and forgeline 18 inch wheels, two tone paint, adjustable spoiler, front splitter....but being a 79 malibu somhow disqualified it as being a Pro Touring car...


so can someone please tell me what ive built then if it isnt pro touring.... do is really need to be a 1. gen f-body????? WTF!

Your car is pro-touring all the way. Don't pay any attention to that dumb sh_t.

[ironworks]

Originally Posted by deuce_454

Im my oppinion it stops being a camaro when someone can say.. i built the frame for that thing.... i mean a schwartz full chassis camaro.. is a schwartz 2009 with a vintage camaro body on it...

so for me it looses its identity when major parts of the engineering gets replaced... things like the floor pan, subframe and bodylines need to be original...

widened fenders, minitubs etc is fine as ling as its modified camaro pieces, piecutting, sectioning, chopped roof or whatever kustomcar trick is played will IMHO change it from being a camaro.. to bearing the name of whoever built it...

So its OK to cut up certain parts but not others. So was Smokie Yunicks Chevellle not a Chevelle. Or how about Big Red, is that a Camaro. Or was Bob Johnsons Cuda not really a Cuda.

This whole argument is like saying my truck is not a truck since it has no bed floor......

[tones2SS]

Originally Posted by deuce_454

another thing.... Some asswipe walked up to me a while back and said my malibu didnt qualify as pro touring but was a joe-touring car....

now ive sunk big money in it.. it has full aftermarket suspension, global west LCA, SC&C UCA. GW springs, double adj Varishocks, delalums, 1-5/8 GW sway bar.. boxed frame, solid body mounts, Currie curectrac rear controll arms, Fays 2 watts link, moser rear bear 12 inch rear brakes, ATS spindles, 13 inch Touring classics front brakes, hydra-boost, Heads, intake and Cam LS1 engine.. twistmashine paddleshifter, full leather interior, recaro seats and forgeline 18 inch wheels, two tone paint, adjustable spoiler, front splitter....but being a 79 malibu somhow disqualified it as being a Pro Touring car...


so can someone please tell me what ive built then if it isnt pro touring.... do is really need to be a 1. gen f-body????? WTF!

You should have laughed in his face and asked him what he considered pro-touring.
The Malibu sounds pro-touring to me!

[70rs]

The Malibu sounds PT to me also. If you see the douche again give him a smack in the back of the melon for me please?

[tyoneal]

Originally Posted by deuce_454

another thing.... Some asswipe walked up to me a while back and said my malibu didnt qualify as pro touring but was a joe-touring car....

now ive sunk big money in it.. it has full aftermarket suspension, global west LCA, SC&C UCA. GW springs, double adj Varishocks, delalums, 1-5/8 GW sway bar.. boxed frame, solid body mounts, Currie curectrac rear controll arms, Fays 2 watts link, moser rear bear 12 inch rear brakes, ATS spindles, 13 inch Touring classics front brakes, hydra-boost, Heads, intake and Cam LS1 engine.. twistmashine paddleshifter, full leather interior, recaro seats and forgeline 18 inch wheels, two tone paint, adjustable spoiler, front splitter....but being a 79 malibu somhow disqualified it as being a Pro Touring car...


so can someone please tell me what ive built then if it isnt pro touring.... do is really need to be a 1. gen f-body????? WTF!

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Deuce:

If you like your car, tell the Turd Head that said something demeaning to you about your car to, "Go Piss up a Rope."

Don't feel obligated to spend extra money for anyones approval other than your own.

A car is a personal thing that is shaped by you, your funding, your spouse or a mixture of things. (.... and I have my Wife's Permission To Say So.) ;-)

Take Care and, "Nil Illigitum Carborundum".

Ty

[deuce_454]

Originally Posted by tyoneal

"Nil Illigitum Carborundum".

Ty

LOOOL.. if my medical latin isnt mistaken.. that translates into: Never let the bastards grind you down!!