Put up or shut up..... bench racers!

[Derek69SS]

Originally Posted by XcYZ

Derek, I'm not blind (yet), you can tone down the font.

Sorry Scott - got a little excited, and dang near peed myself

Originally Posted by Mikamaro

Wayne Due vs. Detroit Speed vs. Art Morrison vs. 21st vs. Martz vs. Alston Chassiworks( front and new wierd rearsetup everyone disses) vs. CARS vs. Air Ride Specialties vs. Hot rods from Hell(truck arm rear?).

The problem is, unless all the cars have equal engines, transmissions, tires, brakes, drivers, weight, etc. this test won't really "prove" anything.

This would be fun to run against each-other's cars, but if one person's car beats mine on the track, does that make its setup "better"? Not to me, if he's got 5x as much money in his, or needed to hack his car up to install it, and mine does almost as good as a budget bolt-on setup, or if it makes that guy's car uncomfortable, or impractical to drive long distances.

"What works" all depends on your budget, and what you're willing to sacrifice for the performance. Asking on here is one of the best ways to find the info, since there are many members with experience, who are not trying to sell a product that can give you mostly unbiased information.

[XcYZ]

Originally Posted by Derek69SS

Sorry Scott - got a little excited, and dang near peed myself

Derek is right, you also have to take in account the cost vs. performance aspect. There's just no clear cut answer. It comes down to personal goals, vision, and budget.

[Stuart Adams]

We all benefit from the MANUFACTURES beating the snot out of their products, then independent people test them, and we get results = buying the products that we like as a result of their testing and our likes.

Why do all the dirty work when the experienced time proven stuff works and we can still have a life. There are people here that their job is testing stuff, that is how much energy goes into products/performance.

My point is why go beat the snot out of your car, try new parts, thrash it again and again, just to find out what works, when the BIG DOGS have done the work for you.

[Dezduster]

Originally Posted by Stuart Adams

We all benefit from the MANUFACTURES beating the snot out of their products, then independent people test them, and we get results = buying the products that we like as a result of their testing and our likes.

Why do all the dirty work when the experienced time proven stuff works and we can still have a life. There are people here that their job is testing stuff, that is how much energy goes into products/performance.

My point is why go beat the snot out of your car, try new parts, thrash it again and again, just to find out what works, when the BIG DOGS have done the work for you.

Its funny how when we start building a car you see your self carving corners, burning rubber and generaly running amuck. Then the reality hits you after the build its too nice too expensive to thrash on. Which sucks in a way. It seems the best cars for this are newer ones that you arnt emotionaly conected to. It also seems the older you get the stronger the take care of it syndrome is. Thats just my buck and 2 cents worth.

[Ummgawa]

Originally Posted by Stuart Adams

We all benefit from the MANUFACTURES beating the snot out of their products, then independent people test them, and we get results = buying the products that we like as a result of their testing and our likes.

Why do all the dirty work when the experienced time proven stuff works and we can still have a life. There are people here that their job is testing stuff, that is how much energy goes into products/performance.

My point is why go beat the snot out of your car, try new parts, thrash it again and again, just to find out what works, when the BIG DOGS have done the work for you.

What Stu said.