Hotchkis swivel eye bushing for rear leaf springs

[Hotchkis]

Hey All – These are brand new parts that we’ve been testing for a while with great success!

Offering them as an option with the springs is a great idea. We’ll have to look into the option of offering them in the springs we sell, but you can always call us and maybe something can be worked out until we get that worked out. As far as pricing goes, we always have to weigh in cost of materials and production along with other factors. These new shackles are definitely making a difference out on the road and the track. Keep watching for new products! We’re always up to something…

[Roberts68]

Originally Posted by Roberts68

Sooo... Expecting Hotchkis will be along here soon.

I love it when I'm right.

Originally Posted by Roberts68

Will these be listed as an upgrade to the rear springs out the door?

Listing them as an add-on to a set of springs and deduct the other shackles/bushings seems like a simple and logical option to make available.

Originally Posted by Hotchkis

Offering them as an option with the springs is a great idea. We’ll have to look into the option of offering them in the springs we sell, but you can always call us and maybe something can be worked out until we get that worked out.

Actually, I think the price is almost the same as my marketing consultation fee so when you get my invoice just send the parts and we can call it a done deal. I'm fair like that.



On the website, "Highest quality PTE lined mono balls"
Can you explain PTE? I am not familiar, was that to read PTFE?

[DRJDVM's '69]

I have the Hotchkis springs in th rear and I'd love to swap out the standard bushings for these.....

[Hotchkis]

Originally Posted by Roberts68

I love it when I'm right.



Actually, I think the price is almost the same as my marketing consultation fee so when you get my invoice just send the parts and we can call it a done deal. I'm fair like that.



On the website, "Highest quality PTE lined mono balls"
Can you explain PTE? I am not familiar, was that to read PTFE?

Roberts68 – Thanks for being fair with your “marketing consultation” and also for pointing out the PTFE. We’ll have our web guy look into that.

[GaRys69]

Please can someone explain how these are a improvement over even Delrin bushing shackles.

[David Pozzi]

Originally Posted by GaRys69

Please can someone explain how these are a improvement over even Delrin bushing shackles.

The spherical bearings eliminate binding as the car rolls. With rubber or Poly bushings, the rear get's stiffer and stiffer with every degree of chassis roll due to bushing compression. This can cause corner exit oversteer.
Pot holes and tar strips will be felt more with these, but the rear feels more precise. Type of tire matters too, a tire with more tread feels pretty good on the street, but 100 tread wear tires with very little tread feel harsh.
David

[Rick D]

Originally Posted by David Pozzi

The spherical bearings eliminate binding as the car rolls. With rubber or Poly bushings, the rear get's stiffer and stiffer with every degree of chassis roll due to bushing compression. This can cause corner exit oversteer.
Pot holes and tar strips will be felt more with these, but the rear feels more precise. Type of tire matters too, a tire with more tread feels pretty good on the street, but 100 tread wear tires with very little tread feel harsh.
David

David, So would say that a street car that will see a track or auto cross a few times a year benifit from these or not really?

[David Pozzi]

Originally Posted by badrs69

David, So would say that a street car that will see a track or auto cross a few times a year benifit from these or not really?

There is benefit, I'm not sure how much. When we switched to this type (Cat 5) the rear felt more precise & it let you know what was going on back there a little better. We have this Hotchkis system on Deanna's second gen Camaro which is winning.
In a back to back test, comparing it to Delrin/Poly bushings, I think the difference would be small. No way do you ever want a solid delrin or aluminum bushing up front on a leaf spring. It would cause corner exit oversteer due to binding. A solid bushing on the rear leaf eye is not so bad, but a stock front & poly rear on the leaf eyes is next best to this system.
David

[RSZ28]

Originally Posted by Hotchkis

Roberts68 – Thanks for being fair with your “marketing consultation” and also for pointing out the PTFE. We’ll have our web guy look into that.

He looked into it so good the website is offline .

Looking forward to these .

[garymac69]

Can we get before and after test results on these bushings?