Somebody FREAKIN shoot me!!!!

[96z28ss]

we need to make some changes to our government. If we want to make the government better than we need a damn reorg.
We elected 2 dead people into office. This is crazy. Florida Democrat Earl K. Wood and Alabama Republican Charles Beasley. Here is what really pisses me off.
Taken from article.
"Wood died on Oct. 15 from natural causes at age 96, during his campaign for a 12th term as Orange County Tax Collector in Orlando, Fla.

Criticized for rarely coming into the office while collecting a $150,000 salary and $90,000 pension.

Wood's wide name recognition after almost half a century in office scared off several serious contenders. His name remained on the ballot and he took 56 percent of the votes to 44 percent for a Republican who promised to eliminate the office altogether if elected.

Are you f-ing kidding me. A salary and a pension. Thats crazy.
We need term limits and You should be out at 65.

[Beegs]

Holy $%#..... Great thread! Really wish there was a way to "like" the comments, there are many, many good ones.

My 12 year old son actually broke down and cried...it really struck me. I have always said to him, good ideas come from both sides and have let him make up his own mind, but he sees the way things are going.

One thing I love doing with Obama backers when a political conversation is going nowhere, I ask: "With a straight face, tell me, would you rather have Obama or Romney balance your checkbook?" Works EVERY time, they just laugh it off because they cannot defend it.

[hifi875]

The future scares me. So much has changed in the last 4 years, and not for the better.

[MarkM66]

My company BC/BS healthcare double from last year to this year. I guess the increase is to buy coverage for another family.

[hifi875]

The makers will have more taken while the takers will make more. Exactly what obummer wants so that the takers will be more dependent on government

[realcoray]

Originally Posted by hifi875

The future scares me. So much has changed in the last 4 years, and not for the better.

My question is what has changed that is something the president himself has done?

People forget that 4 years ago at this time, hundreds of thousands of people were losing their jobs, unemployment had gone up 40% in 2008, from 5 to 7.3%. Lots of people lost their jobs, their homes and/or their businesses.

I agree that all sucked, and things aren't all fixed now. We just about back to the same unemployment rate as when Obama took office, and the economy is adding jobs.

It's unrealistic to blame Obama for the economy being terrible, primarily because it was all sorts of messed up before he was even elected.

At the same time, it's not a reasonable assessment to give him much credit for things improving either. Not much has actually happened in washington dc the last four years, and things improving is more about the resilience of americans than it is anything that any one person or all of d.c. has done.

My point is this, let's not be all hyperbolic and dramatic over the election.

[Sieg]

Why do you feel so obligated to defend politicians?

[Radlark]

Saw this and I thought it was funny..I personally don't do the "discuss politics" thing because everyone is entitled to THIER opinion...again I just thought it was funny no matter which way I voted.....

[ironworks]

Originally Posted by realcoray

It's unrealistic to blame Obama for the economy being terrible, primarily because it was all sorts of messed up before he was even elected.

The man said in his campaign that he would fix it in his first term. He did not.

Do you remember all that chatter about cutting the debt, and unemployment being much lower then it is now? ETC

Just google the words "2008 campaign promises". The video list is pretty long.

Everything that happened was opposite of what he promised for a job he campaigned to get.

[hifi875]

Originally Posted by realcoray

My question is what has changed that is something the president himself has done?

People forget that 4 years ago at this time, hundreds of thousands of people were losing their jobs, unemployment had gone up 40% in 2008, from 5 to 7.3%. Lots of people lost their jobs, their homes and/or their businesses.

I agree that all sucked, and things aren't all fixed now. We just about back to the same unemployment rate as when Obama took office, and the economy is adding jobs.

It's unrealistic to blame Obama for the economy being terrible, primarily because it was all sorts of messed up before he was even elected.

At the same time, it's not a reasonable assessment to give him much credit for things improving either. Not much has actually happened in washington dc the last four years, and things improving is more about the resilience of americans than it is anything that any one person or all of d.c. has done.

My point is this, let's not be all hyperbolic and dramatic over the election.

he hasn't done a single thing to improve the so called nightmare that he "inherited". and the outlook since then hasn't changed. he is a divider. nothing changed, he took class warfare to the next level. he is not a friend of business. his foreign policy is ridiculous. so what he killed bin laden. bin laden was powerless. he has done nothing to give any glimmer of hope on any front, that any of our problem will be solved.