Somebody FREAKIN shoot me!!!!

[Bryan O]

Who is John Galt?

[realcoray]

Originally Posted by hifi875

The future scares me. So much has changed in the last 4 years, and not for the better.

My question is what has changed that is something the president himself has done?

People forget that 4 years ago at this time, hundreds of thousands of people were losing their jobs, unemployment had gone up 40% in 2008, from 5 to 7.3%. Lots of people lost their jobs, their homes and/or their businesses.

I agree that all sucked, and things aren't all fixed now. We just about back to the same unemployment rate as when Obama took office, and the economy is adding jobs.

It's unrealistic to blame Obama for the economy being terrible, primarily because it was all sorts of messed up before he was even elected.

At the same time, it's not a reasonable assessment to give him much credit for things improving either. Not much has actually happened in washington dc the last four years, and things improving is more about the resilience of americans than it is anything that any one person or all of d.c. has done.

My point is this, let's not be all hyperbolic and dramatic over the election.

[Sieg]

Why do you feel so obligated to defend politicians?

[Radlark]

Saw this and I thought it was funny..I personally don't do the "discuss politics" thing because everyone is entitled to THIER opinion...again I just thought it was funny no matter which way I voted.....

[ironworks]

Originally Posted by realcoray

It's unrealistic to blame Obama for the economy being terrible, primarily because it was all sorts of messed up before he was even elected.

The man said in his campaign that he would fix it in his first term. He did not.

Do you remember all that chatter about cutting the debt, and unemployment being much lower then it is now? ETC

Just google the words "2008 campaign promises". The video list is pretty long.

Everything that happened was opposite of what he promised for a job he campaigned to get.

[hifi875]

Originally Posted by realcoray

My question is what has changed that is something the president himself has done?

People forget that 4 years ago at this time, hundreds of thousands of people were losing their jobs, unemployment had gone up 40% in 2008, from 5 to 7.3%. Lots of people lost their jobs, their homes and/or their businesses.

I agree that all sucked, and things aren't all fixed now. We just about back to the same unemployment rate as when Obama took office, and the economy is adding jobs.

It's unrealistic to blame Obama for the economy being terrible, primarily because it was all sorts of messed up before he was even elected.

At the same time, it's not a reasonable assessment to give him much credit for things improving either. Not much has actually happened in washington dc the last four years, and things improving is more about the resilience of americans than it is anything that any one person or all of d.c. has done.

My point is this, let's not be all hyperbolic and dramatic over the election.

he hasn't done a single thing to improve the so called nightmare that he "inherited". and the outlook since then hasn't changed. he is a divider. nothing changed, he took class warfare to the next level. he is not a friend of business. his foreign policy is ridiculous. so what he killed bin laden. bin laden was powerless. he has done nothing to give any glimmer of hope on any front, that any of our problem will be solved.

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by Mkelcy

This is utter tripe based on the Republican effort to deligitimize this President for the last 4 years.

Greg, you just don't seem this unaware. What's up?

Everybody went to work the day after the election -- nobody went on strike -- the military didn't park tanks in the public square...

Let's not take the efforts of a few dip wads like Donald Trump, who can't give up on the birther issue, as being indicative of "the man in the street". I think the average person understands an election in the U.S. We may not like it - we may not agree... but HE won, and HE is the POTUS. I have to respect that, and move forward.

[hifi875]

Originally Posted by GregWeld

Everybody went to work the day after the election -- nobody went on strike -- the military didn't park tanks in the public square...

Let's not take the efforts of a few dip wads like Donald Trump, who can't give up on the birther issue, as being indicative of "the man in the street". I think the average person understands an election in the U.S. We may not like it - we may not agree... but HE won, and HE is the POTUS. I have to respect that, and move forward.

True, I don't like it, but thats life. Adjust and move on. The sun will come up in the morning and go down in the afternoon. I'm enjoying not watching any news shows and getting back to reality.

[Bryan O]

New word:

[GregWeld]

^^^ I've never seen anything that so perfectly sums it up!