Camaro XV

[clill]

Don't give em a reason for even fatter heads.

[glassman]

Can fatter heads process more data?


Cause this s#\+s awesome

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Originally Posted by clill

Don't give em a reason for even fatter heads.

you can only pull so much foam out of a helmet.

[Radlark]

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab

you can only pull so much foam out of a helmet.

LMBO!!!!

[WSSix]

Dave and Mark too, would locating the different fluid to air exchangers in separate spots be better? Or do you run into other obstacles such as air flow and packaging that cause it to be too cumbersome or add too much weight? I'd also imagine aero considerations have to be factored in there too. Instead of having one central area to concentrate on having proper air flow through, you'd have multiple.

[Stielow]

Originally Posted by WSSix

Dave and Mark too, would locating the different fluid to air exchangers in separate spots be better? Or do you run into other obstacles such as air flow and packaging that cause it to be too cumbersome or add too much weight? I'd also imagine aero considerations have to be factored in there too. Instead of having one central area to concentrate on having proper air flow through, you'd have multiple.

On Red Devil we ran the diff, tran, engine oil good and power steer was all sent to the front of the car to be cooled. On Mayhem we move the trans and diff cooler to the back to reduce the thermal load on the front. Mayhems engine coolant temp as very on track but we are still chasing an engine oil cooling issue. On Camaro XV I'm adding an even bigger rad and oil heat exchanger.

But as we attempt to rebalance the thermal load Thomson is upping the power..
I think we can keep it cool and make more power.

Mark

[coolwelder62]

Originally Posted by Stielow

On Red Devil we ran the diff, tran, engine oil good and power steer was all sent to the front of the car to be cooled. On Mayhem we move the trans and diff cooler to the back to reduce the thermal load on the front. Mayhems engine coolant temp as very on track but we are still chasing an engine oil cooling issue. On Camaro XV I'm adding an even bigger rad and oil heat exchanger.

But as we attempt to rebalance the thermal load Thomson is upping the power..
I think we can keep it cool and make more power.

Mark

[Track Junky]

Originally Posted by Stielow

On Red Devil we ran the diff, tran, engine oil good and power steer was all sent to the front of the car to be cooled. On Mayhem we move the trans and diff cooler to the back to reduce the thermal load on the front. Mayhems engine coolant temp as very on track but we are still chasing an engine oil cooling issue. On Camaro XV I'm adding an even bigger rad and oil heat exchanger.

But as we attempt to rebalance the thermal load Thomson is upping the power..
I think we can keep it cool and make more power.

Mark

I'm probably going to step out on a real thin limb here but I dont see the purpose of running coolers for rear diff, power steering, and trans when you may run 25 minutes a session at most?

[PTAddict]

Originally Posted by Track Junky

I'm probably going to step out on a real thin limb here but I dont see the purpose of running coolers for rear diff, power steering, and trans when you may run 25 minutes a session at most?

I'm running a NA LS7 with a lot less HP than Mark - about 600 - and I certainly can't drive my car as close to the limit as he does his But I still find PS and trans cooling to be essential for Summer track days, I think partly because temps never return to baseline between sessions. By the 2nd or 3rd sesssion, both steering and shifting went to hell by 10 minutes in without coolers. My diff temps are marginal - 260 - 280 with synthetic fluid - and I haven't added a diff cooler yet.

[Stielow]

Originally Posted by Track Junky

I'm probably going to step out on a real thin limb here but I dont see the purpose of running coolers for rear diff, power steering, and trans when you may run 25 minutes a session at most?

With over 700 - 800 HP on tap and my driving style I can over temp the diff in 3 laps. The power steering I can over temp autoXing in a few laps easy. I have less data on the trans but while I'm at it I add one. If someone is not going 10/10ths then the extra cooler are not needed.

If your car is running lower power then the coolers are not needed. I have gotten diff so hot that it has ruined gear sets. I forget how many Watts the diff buts out but it is not insignificant.

I will add a disclaimer here. My builds are not normal and my duty cycle is not normal. Heck if I run a full 25 min. session I get a lot of stuff real hot.

Mark