Camaro XV

[DaleTx]

Looks great Mark... I am wondering how much weight savings with the carbon fiber parts on the front.

Look forward to more pictures on the build and info on the dry sump system install. The front spoiler looks great!

[Stielow]

Originally Posted by DaleTx

Looks great Mark... I am wondering how much weight savings with the carbon fiber parts on the front.

Look forward to more pictures on the build and info on the dry sump system install. The front spoiler looks great!

The delta between all the steel parts (Hood, Fenders, Inner Fenders, Header, Cowl, Lower Vance with Bumper) was 122 lbs. Some weight will need to be added back to reinforce the grill and bumper. The parts fit better than I though they would. Also then it is all bolted together the stuff feels very stiff.

Originally Posted by Matt.A

Hey Mark, how is the fit with the 315s? I bought a set of Anvil's fenders recently and I'm curious if you're happy with how the wheel and tire sits, or if you needed to add a little more backspace, or trim the inside of the fender lip to get the wheel and tire to turn without issue.

thanks,

Matt

I have a 18 X 11 mocked up on the front with a PSII 315/30R18. It fits OK but it needs more backspacing than I like to maintain turning radius. I'm concerned with too much tire rubbing. All my previous projects has a lot of tire rubbing and the steel parts just lost their paint. This CF parts will most likely wear away. My plan is to add steering stops and try the 18 X 11 with 7 inch back spacing. The problem is the AutoXs with the 180 degree turns. Also with AutoX like Holley Fest where there is a big bump in a very sharp turn could junk a fender. The steel parts could take a lot of abuse. Unsure on this CF stuff durability. I really like the parts and think I can make it all work.

Mark

[Matt@BOS]

Originally Posted by Stielow

The delta between all the steel parts (Hood, Fenders, Inner Fenders, Header, Cowl, Lower Vance with Bumper) was 122 lbs. Some weight will need to be added back to reinforce the grill and bumper. The parts fit better than I though they would. Also then it is all bolted together the stuff feels very stiff.



I have a 18 X 11 mocked up on the front with a PSII 315/30R18. It fits OK but it needs more backspacing than I like to maintain turning radius. I'm concerned with too much tire rubbing. All my previous projects has a lot of tire rubbing and the steel parts just lost their paint. This CF parts will most likely wear away. My plan is to add steering stops and try the 18 X 11 with 7 inch back spacing. The problem is the AutoXs with the 180 degree turns. Also with AutoX like Holley Fest where there is a big bump in a very sharp turn could junk a fender. The steel parts could take a lot of abuse. Unsure on this CF stuff durability. I really like the parts and think I can make it all work.

Mark

I was a little concerned about that. I've run 6.5" backspacing before and it was no fun on the street, or a tight autocross. The 6.5" backspacing caused wear against the carbon inner fenders, and was severe enough to distort the weave from heat. Every time I had to make a U turn the wheels would scrape against the control arms. I put rack limiters in, but then ended up with a significantly limited turning radius. I imagine that with 6.25" backspace there is still a fair amount of contact against the inner fenders from time to time. I made a simple modification to roll the inside of the fender lip up on my normal steel fenders and was wondering if modifying the inside lip on the Anvil parts might also be in order. I bought fiberglass ones and I would like to stay away from any major cutting, and glass work, but may resort to pulling the everything out a little more.

I'm sure you will figure out a solution. It seems you always do!

Matt

[Ketzer]

Bond an aluminum "rub strip" to the inner fender where you know it will rub? Very little weight, dissipate the heat... okay, maybe I'm showing just how redneck I am.


Jeff-

[WSSix]

Originally Posted by Ketzer

Bond an aluminum "rub strip" to the inner fender where you know it will rub? Very little weight, dissipate the heat... okay, maybe I'm showing just how redneck I am.


Jeff-

Actually, I think that's a good idea. However, I know squat about CF really.

[Sieg]

Originally Posted by Ketzer

Bond an aluminum "rub strip" to the inner fender where you know it will rub? Very little weight, dissipate the heat... okay, maybe I'm showing just how redneck I am.

Jeff-

I don't see the concept as a bad idea, possibly UMHA instead of aluminum.

http://www.crownplastics.com/polymer...sses/materials

http://www.shop3m.com/3m-uhmw-pe-tap...ssr7s8qpk.html

[byndbad914]

Originally Posted by Stielow

I can also fit a 11 inch wide front wheel!

Nice well made parts that fit well.

Originally Posted by Stielow

I have a 18 X 11 mocked up on the front with a PSII 315/30R18. It fits OK but it needs more backspacing than I like to maintain turning radius. I'm concerned with too much tire rubbing.

Mark, what offset or backspace are you using with the 11"?

I am in process right now of ordering nearly identical wheels (the GA3s, not the Rs, fit-wise identical designs) for my 66 Nova and am also going to use them on my 2011 Z06 that has ZR1 brakes (Carbon Edition). I could not get an 11"; I am having to stay at 10.5" because the inner barrel of the 11" hits the ZR1 caliper and the 10.5" just squeaks by. For the Vette I need to run a 37.5mm offset (~7-1/4" backspace) so if I were to reduce that by 1/2" I could run an 11", so maybe you are in the 6.5" BS or 25-30mm offset range or less?

If so, keep in mind if you want a more BS for fender clearance you will need to go to the narrower wheel at around 7" of BS. I will be running a 295 tire because the 315 can hit the inner fender stuff on the Z06, you can still run the 315 on a 10.5" wheel since you won't have that issue on the Camaro.

[dropped72ss]

Incredible work! Car looks amazing already, can't wait to see the finished product.

[next69]

Any updates for us Mark?

[Stielow]

Originally Posted by next69

Any updates for us Mark?

Matt has been busy getting the cage going.