Where is the line, and have I crossed it? - Lateral-g Forums

SSLance · #1 06-20-2016, 08:50 AM

If you must have the forward upper cage bars, I'd just work extra diligently about tucking them as high and tight as possible. And pad them with the good stuff. The Finch and Tucker 2nd Gen Camaros both have full cages in them that you almost can't see they are so tight, same with the Viking Shocks F Body... Then set the seats as low as you possibly can.

Street driving with a 5 point harness sucks, there is no doubt about it. I tried it once and bailed on the idea. I imagine it would be even worse with a containment seat, between not being able to move at all plus not being able to see to the sides or the rear...that just isn't any fun (or safe) at all to me.

Your car didn't come with factory shoulder harnesses right? If there was any way to graft a set of factory style 3 point belts into your car, I'd seriously look into it (if they will work with your seats that is).

Otherwise, it sounds like you are going to end up with a race car with license plates...that you have to suit up and strap completely into for that trip to the grocery store. Not completely track restrictive but not the most fun street adaptive either. Just be safe mixing components.

CJD Automotive · #2 06-20-2016, 09:01 AM

Thanks Lance, I think....your not telling me what I want to hear!!

I already have a cage in the car, just adding the bars to make it IMSA/SCCA legal.

I tucked the forward bars way up in there! Can't even see it from the side.

SSLance · #3 06-20-2016, 09:09 AM

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I already have a cage in the car, just adding the bars to make it IMSA/SCCA legal.

Are you talking about Wheel to Wheel legal? Surely you do not plan on club racing this car...do you?

From what I understand, my 4 point bar is all that is needed to do any IMSA/SCCA time trial, hill climbs or solo trial events. The door bars are only necessary once you get to wheel to wheel events.

Your cage bars look great, that's the only way to do them on a street car in my opinion.

CJD Automotive · #4 06-20-2016, 09:15 AM

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Are you talking about Wheel to Wheel legal? Surely you do not plan on club racing this car...do you?

No, unless I accidentally bang it up, and then yes!...American Iron Extreme.

Need a legal cage for SCTA/ECTA running mile and Bonneville, hence the 'chute, cars over 200 are required to have them. I'm looking at 220-230 in the standing mile and 260-ish in the 5 mile, so want a very safe cage!

SSLance · #5 06-20-2016, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CJD Automotive

Need a legal cage for SCTA/ECTA running mile and Bonneville, hence the 'chute, cars over 200 are required to have them. I'm looking at 220-230 in the standing mile and 260-ish in the 5 mile, so want a very safe cage!

Gotcha... And I understand completely...

DBasher · #6 06-20-2016, 12:26 PM

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Need a legal cage for SCTA/ECTA running mile and Bonneville, hence the 'chute, cars over 200 are required to have them. I'm looking at 220-230 in the standing mile and 260-ish in the 5 mile, so want a very safe cage!

I love the car and what you're doing with it! I've got nothing to add other than make sure you read and reread the SCTA rules and know what class you'd be running in. You can easily run the 150 club but to get on the 5 mile you'll be looked over really well...maybe run no class and Time Only (TO)

CJD Automotive · #7 06-20-2016, 02:18 PM

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I love the car and what you're doing with it! I've got nothing to add other than make sure you read and reread the SCTA rules and know what class you'd be running in. You can easily run the 150 club but to get on the 5 mile you'll be looked over really well...maybe run no class and Time Only (TO)

Thanks! I'll run either B/BGC or B/BGALT. Both blown gas classes, just not sure if I can stay in Competition Coupe with my aero mods, or will get bumped to Altered Coupe. Either way, doesn't matter, it's not like any records will be in danger, just want to run the car on the salt and get into the 200 MPH club. Sucks that you don't get anything anymore unless you set a record.

BMR Sales · #8 06-20-2016, 09:14 AM

Craig, been there, done that a few times.

I personally have nothing against 5 Pt Belts and I like them and you get used to them.

Your cage is tucked away from you - are you able to get padding around the bars?

CJD Automotive · #9 06-20-2016, 09:23 AM

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Your cage is tucked away from you - are you able to get padding around the bars?

Not the forward sections. Left enough room to slip zip ties on the side roof bars, where your helmet could contact, so I can use 180 padding there.

Rmt · #10 06-20-2016, 09:50 AM

This really is a tough line to draw.
I've spent too much time not reaching any conclusions also.

At this point, I'm drawing the line at welded-in, high door bars, and a containment seat.

Going to try to "settle for" welded in bars at seat bolster and another angled at shoulder height, and a Sparco street fighter seat, w/ 6 point belts.

Maybe include a higher door bar, with pins.