What those G-Mashine stands for!!

[L8ONBRAKE]

What difference does it really make? Do you think you are the inventor of good brakes and nice suspension parts? I'll let you in on a secret, people have been making ALL cars go fast on the street and track for the last 80 years. Putting on a tubular suspension does not mean you are part of an exclusive club. The people really doing things could care less about what some guy in another country does to his Honda or anything else. Do you think real racers in real track cars think that we are ruining their reputation putting real speed parts on cars that will never do anything other than be internet car porn stars? They could care less I'd bet. Probably even think it was cool. I think everyone is tired of this topic, let it go already

[rockatanski]

"ricer" crew here *waves*. I sort of agree with you, in as far that the label "pro touring" should be limited to earlier versions of classic american muscle cars. Kind of like how "street rods" specifically refers to pre 194~ (forget which year exactly...) vehicles. But it's really hard to know where to draw the line, as I've seen some pretty quality vehicles that didn't fit this category, yet were still built in the pro-touring style. For example, a "pro-touring" fox-bodied mustang would be pushing it, I think. Or last gen camaro. I think "g-machine" can fit those (if they handle) but not pro-touring.

I wish I had the money to be able to build up my dream pro-touring car, but for right now I don't, so a slightly cheaper way to get a pretty decent handling sporty-ish car for me was to go Japanese for awhile (driving a 2002 acura rsx-s currently).

To each their own, but imho, to be a true car enthusiast you can't totally limit yourself to one genre or style...

[T Bell]

I think off it as a rebirth to cars of yesterday. But yesterday is relative. It depends on how old you are. I love muscle cars and that is my thing. Recently I have had a thing for open fender rides like a 34' Ford, which alot of people have put a 350 chevy in. I recently had a dream about one with a 3 cyl motor. (my daily driver's a Metro, 46mpg who's laughing). But with custom paint, a 3cyl 5spd, I could drive this thing everyday. And on the weekends, swap the 350 back in and have the best of both worlds. But I know a Jap motor in a classic to some is pure evil.

[MarkM66]

I can't believe you guys could actually read it.

[Musclerodz]

If SW still has it, he has the baddest ricer on the planet IMO. I doubt he would call it a ricer though.

Mike

[BThibodeaux]

Originally Posted by L8ONBRAKE

What difference does it really make? Do you think you are the inventor of good brakes and nice suspension parts? I'll let you in on a secret, people have been making ALL cars go fast on the street and track for the last 80 years. Putting on a tubular suspension does not mean you are part of an exclusive club. The people really doing things could care less about what some guy in another country does to his Honda or anything else. Do you think real racers in real track cars think that we are ruining their reputation putting real speed parts on cars that will never do anything other than be internet car porn stars? They could care less I'd bet. Probably even think it was cool. I think everyone is tired of this topic, let it go already

Hey. This is a forum.....
How about we chill.

[L8ONBRAKE]

Originally Posted by BThibodeaux

Hey. This is a forum.....
How about we chill.

juss sayin

[TonyL]

I think it all boils down to the most basic principles of what makes us do this in the first place. Driving. We like to drive old cars harder than they were ever meant to be driven through the twisties. That's it. That's all. So what difference does the weapon of choice make? American? Japanese? German? The point is we *know* we took something due for retirement, and pushed it past what the factory is currently offering. No matter which factory.

It's about looking at a new camaro and saying "I could'a done it better, GM." and then *proving it* to yourself. The name is just a pronoun tacked onto a build style that reflects one's love of driving, really driving their car. Those names mean whatever the individuals want them to mean. Despite the fact that we've all been hooked on pro-touring and g-machines for as long as we have doesn't mean that it isn't a young segment of the market. It is. And the only way to make sure this segment doesn't die out is to let it grow.

I'm sorry you left the other board. I hope you'll change your mind. People have differences of opinion and that's what boards are all about. Don't let one exchange ruin it for you.

[6'9"Witha69]

As long as it meets the requirements of accelerating, stopping and turning better, then it can be PT in my opinion.

[T Bell]

Originally Posted by TonyL

I think it all boils down to the most basic principles of what makes us do this in the first place. Driving. We like to drive old cars harder than they were ever meant to be driven through the twisties. That's it. That's all. So what difference does the weapon of choice make? American? Japanese? German? The point is we *know* we took something due for retirement, and pushed it past what the factory is currently offering. No matter which factory.

It's about looking at a new camaro and saying "I could'a done it better, GM." and then *proving it* to yourself. The name is just a pronoun tacked onto a build style that reflects one's love of driving, really driving their car. Those names mean whatever the individuals want them to mean. Despite the fact that we've all been hooked on pro-touring and g-machines for as long as we have doesn't mean that it isn't a young segment of the market. It is. And the only way to make sure this segment doesn't die out is to let it grow.

I'm sorry you left the other board. I hope you'll change your mind. People have differences of opinion and that's what boards are all about. Don't let one exchange ruin it for you.

Well, said on all points.