09 Camaro Engineering Mule

[DVierstra]

I'm kinda diggin' the look of it.

BTW, by the time the Camaro comes out it will already be outdated. I'm already bored with the looks of it after seeing it nonstop for like 3 years now.

I am not bored with the looks myself. I just wish that it would be out already!!
The Mule has often been mistaken for the next RWD Impala due out in 2009.
I believe it will be on a Holden platform, Which the Caprice (only sold everywhere else but the US) is built on the Holden platform and does look similar to the current Impala.

[Mecom Racer]

Bad news is that it appears GM will not be able to engineer it without a B pillar as shown on the concept. I'm beyond disappointed about this seemingly minute detail but it makes a huge difference when you want all the windows down.

[Ummgawa]

Better news for us GM fans:


http://money.aol.com/news/articles/_...02154609990003

[BThibodeaux]

Originally Posted by Mecom Racer

Bad news is that it appears GM will not be able to engineer it without a B pillar as shown on the concept. I'm beyond disappointed about this seemingly minute detail but it makes a huge difference when you want all the windows down.

So how do you think they will pull off the convertible?

BTW, does anyone know if it has truly been confirmed that convertibles will not be available until 2010?

[andrewmp6]

i dont understand why bring it back they canned it before for lack of sales and look at the gto it didnt do that good.

[trapin]

Originally Posted by andrewmp6

i dont understand why bring it back they canned it before for lack of sales and look at the gto it didnt do that good.

The F-body was canned because we didn't have a new platform to move it to and sales were only lacking because the current architecture had run it's course. It was just in the wrong place at the wrong time when it happened.

GTO failed for obvious reasons. But it's still a great "driving" car. A used one would be a great bargain for the amount of performance.

[Mecom Racer]

Originally Posted by BThibodeaux

So how do you think they will pull off the convertible?

BTW, does anyone know if it has truly been confirmed that convertibles will not be available until 2010?

There are different government-mandated standards on verts vs. coupes. Insurance premiums and the cost to build them is usually also higher on a vert. Premiums are higher for obvious reasons but GM's cost, hence consumer cost, would be too high to make the coupe meet the crash and rollover standards without a b-pillar. Remember, the Camaro needs to appeal to the younger crowd who needs an affordable car in order for GM to sell enough to make it worthwhile. My guess is that along with a b-pillar, the Camaro doors will not be frameless as on the concept. We get a b-pillar, a rear window that won't open and a fully framed door thanks to the beaurocrats and the tough crash standards.