Imagine its World War ll &Your in the cockpit

[Roadrage David]

RR merlin engine you meen lol. wel stastistics hase shown that the me109(latest version) was the spitfire,s equal in the dogfights. you know who disirfs the real medal of houner during the battle of britan "" the hawker hurricane"" the spitfire always got the credit but 80% of the plains that fought the germans where the Hurrican. shows you that a less disired airplain, with the rights stuff in the cockpit can do wonders http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=QWrYogVmPzU

[Spiffav8]

Originally Posted by Roadrage David

RR merlin engine you meen lol. wel stastistics hase shown that the me109(latest version) was the spitfire,s equal in the dogfights. you know who disirfs the real medal of houner during the battle of britan "" the hawker hurricane"" the spitfire always got the credit but 80% of the plains that fought the germans where the Hurrican. shows you that a less disired airplain, with the rights stuff in the cockpit can do wonders http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=QWrYogVmPzU

Later versions of the Spitfire had a RR Griffin. Here's a link that tells you about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superma...gined_variants

[johnny rockett]

I started this thread mainly because of my interest in flying both in cars and planes....be that as it may I could not help but notice on the show " Dogfights" that an American pilot was in trouble as he ran out of ammunition and was being chased by a German 109.....he mentioned that he had to hit the throttle and take the plane to a new power level by adding water/alcohol etc......after researching this thoroughly I notice the approach by the Germans and the Anglos was quite different......now we all know the Germans were pretty smart about building qaulity well engineered equipment...but what I thought was interesting that an supercharger/carb deal was faster for a few moments and the exta power this American Pilot was able to use kept him alive.

The pilot probably did not understand his engine that much and all he knew was he better push the throttle past the saftey gate and that it would add a bunch of power......I think it went from like 18 pounds of boost to 23 pounds and then used the water/alcohol injection to keep it from self destructing etc

We still have the blow thru carb guys and now with EFI here we have that bunch........but the carbs are still plenty fast and there is something to be said for keeping things simple....

You might want to look up Beatrice Shilling.....who helped those spitfires get out of trouble with a simple fix...she evidently was some kind of woman for those times..

[Spiffav8]

Originally Posted by johnny rockett

You might want to look up Beatrice Shilling.....who helped those spitfires get out of trouble with a simple fix...she evidently was some kind of woman for those times..

Yes she was. Nice to see someone that knows of her. Oddly when the P-51 first came out with the RR Merlin it didn't do very well at high altitudes until a guy (who's name I can never remember) who worked for Packard came up with a simple and easy solution. One of those times when the last person you expected to have the answer fixed things.

[Fluid Power]

Originally Posted by johnny rockett

I started this thread mainly because of my interest in flying both in cars and planes....be that as it may I could not help but notice on the show " Dogfights" that an American pilot was in trouble as he ran out of ammunition and was being chased by a German 109.....he mentioned that he had to hit the throttle and take the plane to a new power level by adding water/alcohol etc......after researching this thoroughly I notice the approach by the Germans and the Anglos was quite different......now we all know the Germans were pretty smart about building qaulity well engineered equipment...but what I thought was interesting that an supercharger/carb deal was faster for a few moments and the exta power this American Pilot was able to use kept him alive.

The pilot probably did not understand his engine that much and all he knew was he better push the throttle past the saftey gate and that it would add a bunch of power......I think it went from like 18 pounds of boost to 23 pounds and then used the water/alcohol injection to keep it from self destructing etc

We still have the blow thru carb guys and now with EFI here we have that bunch........but the carbs are still plenty fast and there is something to be said for keeping things simple....

You might want to look up Beatrice Shilling.....who helped those spitfires get out of trouble with a simple fix...she evidently was some kind of woman for those times..

The great Smokey Yunick mentions this in his book. After a pilot used the water/alcohol injection on the plane or 'red lined' it, The engines had to be pulled and overhauled. Smokey talks his way into flying one that had been redlined, to see what would happen. Needless to say he was very impressed!

[johnny rockett]

Not too many comments on the 55......That car is amazing...nothing matches that car in my lifetime and I have had lots of weird stuff that was 2000hp .....but that car is cool....man after my own heart.....would love to see that car.......lots of neat engineering..Does it run?.........how much power? Quater mile times...?.......Any Wings that fold out?

How about some specs?

[clill]

No 1/4 mile times. Was built as a street car. Has power steering, brakes, windows etc. 1650 Cubic inch, supercharged, fuel injected. Piston skirts cut off at bottom ring land to make it rev higher, special cams ground. Supposed to make 3000 hp. Yes it runs but I did have a lean backfire while starting it the other day and shredded a air filter after someone had opened a fuel bleed line that I hadn't noticed. Took two fabricators 5 years full time to build. The silly part is this year at the Pebble Beach Concours De Elegance they have a new 20+ liter class and someone told them about my car. They said by all means send in a entry so I did. You have no idea how out of place this thing will look if it gets accepted.

[clill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIj2GVfua84

[Spiffav8]

I stared at that car for an hour during the L-G party. The detail in every area is just amazing! I have the poster hanging in my garage and I catch myself staring at it.

[deuce_454]

Originally Posted by clill

No 1/4 mile times. Was built as a street car. Has power steering, brakes, windows etc. 1650 Cubic inch, supercharged, fuel injected. Piston skirts cut off at bottom ring land to make it rev higher, special cams ground. Supposed to make 3000 hp. Yes it runs but I did have a lean backfire while starting it the other day and shredded a air filter after someone had opened a fuel bleed line that I hadn't noticed. Took two fabricators 5 years full time to build. The silly part is this year at the Pebble Beach Concours De Elegance they have a new 20+ liter class and someone told them about my car. They said by all means send in a entry so I did. You have no idea how out of place this thing will look if it gets accepted.

It will be interesting to see if Jay Lenno doesnt start waving his checkbook arround...