Motor do over!

[jack67rs]

Here's a few pics of damage, please feel free to let me know if you think this is a result of product failure!! My buddy who referred me to this guy just dropped off his Olds 445 to be done over, after all that I told him was done to mine. He told me that after talking to the builder, that Timm did everything right and that I'm wrong! He has'nt seen the damage so I'm emailing these photo's to him now.

[Vegas69]

Who doesn't turn over an engine after installing a windage tray? Wow..... All that debris getting flung up on your pistons probably caused the wear. It's not like it could pass through the oil pump and be caught by the filter. It must of sounded like hell when you fired it?

[jack67rs]

Originally Posted by Vegas69

Who doesn't turn over an engine after installing a windage tray? Wow..... All that debris getting flung up on your pistons probably caused the wear. It's not like it could pass through the oil pump and be caught by the filter. It must of sounded like hell when you fired it?

All the screen debris seemed to stay out of everything, none show any signs of being hit and they all fit like a puzzle in the hole. The outer structure was hit so much that the rear mount snapped and the screen fell apart. I beleive the screen came apart at the end and was'nt flopping around, would of noticed it when I changed the oil not to long ago. As far as it being loud, remember there is the blower making some noise also. It really sounded like valve train noise and then I started to here it on shut down.

[70rs]

I am no expert by any stretch, and the fact that I can see damage to the tray from rod impact should make it clear that it's not a case of "product failure". As for the pistons, I had a small block done for me several years ago that was also over bored to .034, not .030. When it was torn down my slugs had the same kind of markings on the skirts. I had shown a few of them to other machine shops and asked what causes that, they all told me it was from rocking in the bore. Again, not product failure. This guy shouldn't be allowed to own tools.
Best of luck getting it resolved.

[Spiffav8]

Jack I am so sorry. Those pictures make me want to puke.


Wayne....send the anchor along with that line. I've got a new plan.

[jack67rs]

Well guys its been a slow and brutal process, but soon to be done again. Its hard to spend money on the car, which has slowed the process even more. I decided to just update a few things due to the amount of money it was going to take to get the short block back up to snuff, considered a few different intake options and ended up just updating the Tpi setup with a Big mouth TPIS intake and Slp siamesed runners. I ported the heck out of both shortening the runners about 3" and porting the intake to a Felpro 1206. Then I had to file the plenum to match the runner surfaces and blend together. Brushed the runners and chevrolet lettering on the valve covers and then clear powder coated everything. also made a new throttle body cover to clean it up to blend with the plenum. The short block required a new block, new pistons and few new items total of about 2500 bucks in parts. We splayed the block and studed the heads this time and also went with cometic head gaskets.

[jack67rs]

Well new engine sounds nothing like the first one, perfect!

http://www.hubgarage.com/mygarage/ja...photos/2053896

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