pro touring lost its way????

[evilzee28]

Originally Posted by Steve1969LS1

How many people have a mill in thier garage?

I have no problem in bolt on parts.. the challenge is in combining the RIGHT bolt-on parts so the car has a personality all it's own and doesn't look cobbled together..

And besides, the hinges have zero effect on performance so it does not really equate to the "show-street" cars that can't perform.

You CAN look good and go fast.. it's a fact

Hi Steve, I'm not disputing that you can't look good & go fast & I admit that not everyone has a mill in their 'shop, BUT,... with what seems to be an awful lot of people in the PT scene, with what appears to be a large amount of disposable income, why not get someone to make the parts to your design as opposed to buying off the shelf,'cos pretty soon it'll just look like all of the other cars that have had the parts bought.Now I wasn't at SEMA, but reading the web boards it seems to me that the three cars that seem to stand out were the Baldwin Camaro, the Ring brothers Mustang & the orange 'cuda. Why did they stand out??....... Because they had a lot of original thought put into them !! A lot of the things done to those cars wouldn't cost a fortune to do, but it would cost a lot of time & effort. Thats the difference isn't it, they're not belly button cars.There are plenty of skilled guys out there that could turn your dreams into reality for a reasonable sum.I agree totally that what makes a car is the combination of the right parts to make it look right, Streetkings Camaro is a case in point, it even has the original style interior ( for the time being at least) But what a stunning looking car & there aint any bling in sight, but a lot of thought about the final look.it's good to see marquez making different dash & interiors, they look stunning, but if I wanted a different interior I'd get it trimmed by a proffesional to my own design ( no disrespect intended Jody), it'd be unique. So I guess you can go fast whilst looking good, but remember it's a car at the end of the day & as such becomes an extension of YOUR personality, so maybe it's time to put your own identity in it .

[62fairlane]

I think it has been turning into alot of bling also. I remember some "early" Pt cars that were just a stock car with suspension under it (mostly homegrown) and usually had a OEM efi setup on them. I think the aftermarket that was helping it is going to turn it into pro street at the end....WAY high dollar cars that barely are streetable. I think the next growing trend seems to be the traditional hot rods (something else I am getting ready to do as my next project) They are low buck and easy to build at home since no fancy paint is needed or high dollar "bling" parts....granted some would call having to have vintage speed parts "bling"

yeah it seems like the two sites are ran by 69 Camaro's but there are also alot of mustangs with TCP or Global west parts on them also...and falcons...but I do like seeing the oddball cars like AMC's (like the Rambler on here) being built up. in my book I will always give more credit to someone that built their car instead of buying it. This is the reason I am not a big fan of imports. This might also be because I am a cheap ass and would rather build something then buy it.

[XcYZ]

Those 3 cars you listed were huge dollar cars. The numbers I was overhearing at SEMA were $200k for the Mustang, $400k+ for the Motion Camaro, and $750k+ for the Cuda. Billet hinges seem pretty darn cheap when you throw those numbers around. lol

[race-rodz]

Originally Posted by XcYZ

Cragars and air shocks are all the rage.

LMAO

[MarkM66]

You're not the only one thinking $1000 for a set of hinges is outrageous. If someone spend that much of a set of hinges, the rest of the car better have the absolute best of everything. Anyway else would be foolish, IMO.

No way I'd spend that kind of money on such a item. Stockers don't look that bad.

I've seen the mustang. Did even notice the hinges, .

[jonny51]

Originally Posted by XcYZ

I agree with that - to a point. It seems that way online, Lateral-g and PT.com is saturated with them, but when I'm out on the local or regional car scene, there really isn't that much out there for g-machines. Yet. But of course I'm in the midwest where Cragars and air shocks are all the rage.

Even in the bay area quality PT car's are few and far between.

What wrong with air shocks Scott?

Oh and as far as this thread goes...

[TravisB]

Originally Posted by jonny51

Oh and as far as this thread goes...

Exactly what I was thinking.....

[907rs]

Originally Posted by jonny51

What wrong with air shocks Scott?

Yeah, what's wrong with them? Fifteen years ago my Camaro sported a pair.

As far as Pro-Touring losing its way; there will always be those that build their cars as trailer queens - and nothing else. Just look at every segment of the hot rod community; they all have that same group of guys.

I personally don't think Pro-Touring as a whole will move that direction.......

[MarkM66]

Originally Posted by TravisB

Exactly what I was thinking.....

I know of another site that this Smilie could be used about 10 times a day, .

[TravisB]

Originally Posted by MarkM66

I know of another site that this Smilie could be used about 10 times a day, .

Seems like we have had that converstaion once or twice before in fact....lol


907rs I think you are correct...you will always have your trailer queen crowd, the driver crowd, rat rod crowd, and then of course the guys with two much money that drive the piss out of there trailer queens....this has been going on with street rods for some time so it's only natural for that trend to continue with the growing popularity of G-machines