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Old 02-21-2010, 10:25 PM
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a scanner to check the fuel trims while acting up would be best! Vacumn leak would probably show up at idle also though. Surge in idle or fords like to shutter almost take off at idle while your on the brake with a vacumn leak. I bet its plugs though. Is there a slight delay while cruising and you load it up with heavy throttle? I would just pull the plugs and check them first, bet thats where you will find your issue
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Old 02-21-2010, 10:27 PM
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oh...forgot to read the plugs were new! What brand? Hopefully motorcraft? If there some garage like bosch or something might as well throw them away! If they are motorcraft, check gap
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Old 02-21-2010, 10:30 PM
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Yes, they are motorcraft.
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If I recall correctly, this vintage of Mustang is MAF equipped (mass air flow). Air filters simply do not catch 100% = I'll bet you that the MAF sensor is dirty, which will cause drivability issues without necessarily setting codes (even highly experienced ASE Master Techs / Advanced Drivability Specialists miss this one). There should be two anti-tamper Torx screws holding the actual sensor (black plastic rectangular item) down to the MAF assembly casting. Remove the actual sensor and look for a tiny hotwire spot welded to 2 thicker pegs. Any dust, dirt, fuzz (and I mean magnifying glass visible) on the actual hot wire will insulate it from reading the appropriate amount of actual airflow entering the engine. The PCM adds fuel based upon the amount of air entering into the engine, and will skew the fuel tables to the lean side if it is reading low amounts of air to the PCM. Having said all of this, I advise you respect how delicate this sensor is. One wrong move and you will wreck it and they are not cheap to replace. This is also applicable to most all hotwire type MAF cars (there is also a siphon type design that is less sensitive to dirt) - you would be suprised how much better a vehicle can run when the MAF sensor is cleaned (providing it was dirty).

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Old 02-22-2010, 12:04 PM
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Paul,
I give take a look at it when she gets home.
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If I recall correctly, this vintage of Mustang is MAF equipped (mass air flow). Air filters simply do not catch 100% = I'll bet you that the MAF sensor is dirty, which will cause drivability issues without necessarily setting codes (even highly experienced ASE Master Techs / Advanced Drivability Specialists miss this one). There should be two anti-tamper Torx screws holding the actual sensor (black plastic rectangular item) down to the MAF assembly casting. Remove the actual sensor and look for a tiny hotwire spot welded to 2 thicker pegs. Any dust, dirt, fuzz (and I mean magnifying glass visible) on the actual hot wire will insulate it from reading the appropriate amount of actual airflow entering the engine. The PCM adds fuel based upon the amount of air entering into the engine, and will skew the fuel tables to the lean side if it is reading low amounts of air to the PCM. Having said all of this, I advise you respect how delicate this sensor is. One wrong move and you will wreck it and they are not cheap to replace. This is also applicable to most all hotwire type MAF cars (there is also a siphon type design that is less sensitive to dirt) - you would be suprised how much better a vehicle can run when the MAF sensor is cleaned (providing it was dirty).

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that is some great info Paul. Thanks for posting it. I will keep it in mind for any future issues I may run into.
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Old 02-22-2010, 03:11 PM
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My '03 'Stang is having some idling issues so I'm gonna give the MAF a blast of electrical cleaner and see if it fixes the problem.

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thats why being able to see the fuel trims would help out to diagnose this problem.......
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Hey guys,
What would cause a 2002 ford mustang to sputter at 60-65 MPH? The wife's car just started doing this weird sputter on the freeway. What's funny, the RPM to don't fluctuate, the speed of the car stays the same, and power stays on the whole time the car is in motion. This is weird.

Breakdown of the car:
Ford
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auto
3.6 or 3.8 V6
everything is stock on this car.

We would appreciate any help on the subject.
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Old 02-24-2010, 12:22 PM
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